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re: Aggie reporter Hamm calls Malik Jefferson--"boy"

Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55329 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:05 am to
quote:

intent is to make one feel inferior



And that is why Malik called Hamm "Son"

Hamm just reminded Malik who was the young one


And Malik is still a kid or very young man at best, isn't he just 19?
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:09 am to
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And that is why Malik called Hamm "Son"

Hamm just reminded Malik who was the young one


And Malik is still a kid or very young man at best, isn't he just 19?


It really makes no difference, it looks horrible on Hamm's part. Regardless of what he said (typed), Hamm has no business getting into a twitter "beef" with a 19 year old college athlete.

I feel like Hamm likes to think he is a 19-21 year old college student just shooting the shite with some college bros. In this situation, he never should have tweeted Malik in the first place.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55329 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:13 am to
I agree 100%


I'm just flabbergasted that some idiots in Austin are calling Hamm racist over this

And he may be, I don't know him from adam, but that tweet certainly doesn't make him one.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 9:14 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:15 am to
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I'm just flabbergasted that some idiots in Austin are calling Hamm racist over this


I 98% dont think he meant it in a racist way but I'm not surprised someone decided to be outraged over this, especially nowadays.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:16 am to
i cant stop laughing at how overblown that is once i saw the twitter exchange.


Good god people are sensitive.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55329 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:18 am to
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Good god people in Austin are desperate and delusional
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60200 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:37 am to
Hopefully this is the end of Hamm. Even though it's really not bad if it means we get a real person at 247 I'll take it
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:41 am to
I thought it was worse when I heard about the story. Glad it doesn't appear to be racist. People can't be sensitive if they are shooting their mouths off. The Faux outrage is comical, considering Longhorn "bloggers" have gotten into insulting A&M recruits in the past.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54731 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Recruiting weekend starting off with a bang.


Is Jim Harbaugh sleeping over at some kids house again?

Pedo State, more like B1G Pedo
Posted by CavalryAg07
ChiTown
Member since Jul 2009
2772 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:50 am to
fricking microaggression. this society
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:53 am to
quote:

I 98% dont think he meant it in a racist way but I'm not surprised someone decided to be outraged over this, especially nowadays.


Other than the "especially nowadays" part of this statement, agree with you 100%.

How anyone can think "boy" is not going to be perceived in a very negative way is beyond me, no matter the context.

How someone can see not see that there is an argument that Hamm was just being sloppy is beyond me, but to be honest, I wouldn't require that an African American accept that, because I haven't walked in their shoes.

Finally, EVERY African American in Texas or the south has parents who have experienced the power of words like "boy", so I have no problem with letting them have negative feelings about the word, if only just out of respect for their parents.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

fricking microaggression. this society


You HAVE to be less than 20 years old to think this wouldn't have been a bigger deal if this were said 20 years ago.

The issue is Twitter is the devil.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:09 am to
quote:

If you have to ask how calling an African-American young male a boy is racist, you may be retarded


And if you think this, you ARE retarded. Boy.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18576 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:24 am to
Black people at work call me "boy" all the time at work. Can someone please tell me if I should be offended?

Oh, wait, I don't care. They give me shite and I give them shite and we are friends. Because not everything is racism.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Black people at work call me "boy" all the time at work. Can someone please tell me if I should be offended?


I doubt anyone with your sense of context would ever be offended.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Other than the "especially nowadays" part of this statement, agree with you 100%.

How anyone can think "boy" is not going to be perceived in a very negative way is beyond me, no matter the context.

How someone can see not see that there is an argument that Hamm was just being sloppy is beyond me, but to be honest, I wouldn't require that an African American accept that, because I haven't walked in their shoes.

Finally, EVERY African American in Texas or the south has parents who have experienced the power of words like "boy", so I have no problem with letting them have negative feelings about the word, if only just out of respect for their parents.



I think the "especially nowadays" thing matters from the context of Twitter and modern slang. A lot of times in order to express what I would call "brevity" or "lightheartedness" in text form we add emojis, punctuation or endearing nicknames to the end of short statements. Otherwise, the first reaction is to take the words in their most negative connotation. Think of when you text someone, say a wife or girlfriend, asking for a favor.

Imagine these responses:

Sure.
Okay.
K.

Are a lot different than:

Sure!
Okay bae.
K. :)


The first set you will assume resentment. The others you don't.

Now. I haven't heard someone use the term, "boy" that often, the common term on Black Twitter is, "fam"... But to me, that's what Hamm was going for. If the older users of Twitter never said anything like that, I'm 100% convinced Malik or any other early 20s black kid in Twitter would have assumed the same thing.

That being said, I wish Hamm would find another job. I have only met him once, and I'm not in the business of putting others down to build myself up, so one encounter will never be enough for me to openly bad mouth someone. He always finds himself in the middle of these kinds of things, and it isn't the kind of guy we need in such a high profile role.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 11:17 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

That being said, I wish Hamm would find another job. I have only met him once, and I'm not in the business of putting others down to build myself up, so one encounter will never be enough for me to openly bad mouth someone. He always finds himself in the middle of these kinds of things, and it isn't the kind of guy we need in such a high profile role.


I definitely would not want him in his capacity as an "aTm recruitment insider?" (I really have no idea what you'd actually call him) for LSU. How someone like him finds himself wrapped up in the shite he gets into, I have no idea.
Posted by GrindAllTheStates
Member since Oct 2015
436 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:18 am to
That guy could lose his job...
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:21 am to
It would have been fine if Jefferson had just started his reply with 'well cracker'
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 11:24 am
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:21 am to
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I really have no idea what you'd actually call him



A shithead
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