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re: Absurdly high LSU expectations - Top coaches won't subject themselves to that

Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:02 am to
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:02 am to
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I'm not sure what's sop hard to understand about Jimbo possibly wanting to come here


because unless you do pay him more than he makes now i don't see it as an upgrade for him. that is unless you are correct in your assumption on him wanting a change but that's just an assumption of yours.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10974 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:02 am to
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Established coaches...will not subject themselves to coaching for LSU.
You wish.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:03 am to
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The only reason Jimbo would leave FSU for LSU is that he likes BR and LSU that much more than FSU. According to just about everyone who knows Jimbo, this is actually true and he's close friends with some big time boosters here. Other than that, there's no reason for him to come here because FSU can match anything we offer for sure.


now that makes sense, thank you.
Posted by tomsellecksmustache
Dallas, Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1786 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:04 am to
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Lol. You want to talk about high expectations? Bama might have the highest expectations. And we landed one of the greatest coaches in history, again. Good coaches want a passionate fan base, and aren't afraid of failure.


Sorry bro, this isn't exactly the case... The 2007 Bama coaching search says hello.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:05 am to
Amazing how other SEC teams are now defending Miles, begging him to stay after years of saying what a stupid, poor, and lucky coach he is.
Posted by BayouTiga
Louisana
Member since Jan 2012
3274 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:08 am to
Arky Fan,

You are clueless on LSU football. I am not going to waste my time to try and explain why the frustration exist. An Aggie fan gets it very well and posted accordingly.

GTFO Piggy..........
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:11 am to
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This is not some unprecedented situation. It happens every few years.


How long has Miles been at LSU? 11-12 years something like that?

Miles is a good coach, a great guy, and has been a great representative for the school. He has done a good job at LSU. If it weren't for Saban, he would probably 1-2 more natty's to show for it. It's unfortunate but for $4MM+ a year LSU fans want someone who they believe can get them more competitive than 9 wins and a 2nd or 3rd tier bowl.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:12 am to
Alabama wasn't winning 9-10 games a year. OP isn't wrong, that's why they'll have to hire someone who is a coordinator somewhere right now.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:13 am to

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:28 am to
LSU is loaded with talent . They are an average QB and good coaching staff away from being on top with Bama. Great coaches are not scared of expectation because great talent and the chance to win championships comes with it. The should have already made the change . The longer they wait the harder it may be. UF is paying the price for keeping Muschamp for a 4 year. The program's you named are paying for keeping coaches to long and some of it was bad hires.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:30 am to
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Absurdly high LSU expectations - Top coaches won't subject themselves to that


Totally agree. That's what I'm afraid of
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:34 am to
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You should look up the highest paid staffs in CFB


Cam make more than Kiffin. Paying your staff a ton of money doesn't make them "top" coaches.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:44 am to
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Absurdly high LSU expectations - Top coaches won't subject themselves to that


Totally agree. That's what I'm afraid of

If someone is afraid of expectations, then they are not a top coach. Top coaches are top coaches because they have no problem meeting high expectations.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68313 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:03 pm to
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If someone is afraid of expectations, then they are not a top coach. Top coaches are top coaches because they have no problem meeting high expectations.



And there's nothing absurdly high about LSU fan's expectations. LSU has won 2 national titles and played for a 3rd since the turn of the century. Any fanbase that has those kind of accomplishments on their recent resume should expect to compete for national titles every so often, not be way out of the hunt clearly for about 5 years running now. It's one thing if we would have went 9-3 last year and lost a few close games. We got blown out, by a couple teams with inferior talent. Again we lose this year to a team with much inferior talent...and all because of 1 thing the head coach refuses to bring into the 21st century, the offense. That's his fault and he's stealing the money from the university by ignoring the issue and letting it continue to haunt each team each season.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:03 pm to
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SEC fans are scared that we'll finally get rid of Miles and find someone who can do something with all of that talent.

Arkansas fans especially.

They were all having fun with us for a couple of days and now they realize we're serious, that we're not putting up with this garbage anymore, and that Les is out the door unless he runs the table.

He won't, so that means that this year, there will be another coach mid season - probably Coach O. I wouldn't want to give him the program on a year-to-year basis, but I think he would do fine this year in taking over a super talented team and getting them fired up to play. We'll see.


Help some of us SEC fans out a little and be specific. What has changed within the LSU Administration in the last 9 months that would lead you to believe that the Administration will pull the trigger on Les? And then replace him with Ed O mid-season?

Seriously, y'all wanted him shite canned after Nov last season, your Administration searched for a replacement. They let it drag out in the media for weeks and left Les in limbo all to reverse course after the aTm win. Les got off the shoulders of his players from his farewell tour around the stadium and the Administration announced that his job was safe.

What assurances do you have that the Administration do anything different than they did last year?
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:07 pm to
Average final rank over the last 4 seasons is, at best, 20?

Sorry but 5-6 consecutive underwhelming seasons in a row just doesn't cut it.

Better results can be had for equal or lesser pay.

Makes sense why this board wants him to stay, though.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:09 pm to
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What has changed within the LSU Administration in the last 9 months that would lead you to believe that the Administration will pull the trigger on Les? And then replace him with Ed O mid-season


Nobody wants this. But it is time to quietly start the process
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:13 pm to
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Well for starters he was certainly about to do it last year for about 6.5 mil a year until politics stepped in.


Can you actually link something that backs that up?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68313 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:15 pm to
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What has changed within the LSU Administration in the last 9 months that would lead you to believe that the Administration will pull the trigger on Les?


They will not be given a choice this year when the boosters force their hand. They were willing to pay the buyout last year, this year they will still be willing to do that and probably cut a lot of money to the school if the school doesn't comply this time...a school in desperate need of money. Les' time has run out. Unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat with the offense that he had all offseason to fix with the threat of losing his job if he doesnt...the very next loss will get the ball rolling. The boosters wont put up with it again.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68313 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:16 pm to
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Can you actually link something that backs that up?



There's never going to be links for this because it's all talk behind closed doors, doesnt mean some people didn't know about it. Not here to convince you one way or the other, but Fisher was absolutely interested and a deal was being made which is why Miles was on such rough ground (it's not like they were just going to can him with no replacement already in the bag), then the politics happened and everything fell through and Miles' job was safe.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 12:17 pm
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