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re: A&M player says no thanks to going back to the Big12

Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:32 pm to
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ctiger69


Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:46 pm to
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Because only two Big 12 teams get anything worth a damn just from Tier 3.


While that's not exactly true (Kansas gets $6 million - $7 million from Time Warner for television only),

One of those schools you refer to is Oklahoma, right?

That's a non-Texas school, you fool.

SEC teams get $31 million each for all tiers of TV.

Big 12 teams (on a per-team basis, excluding partial payouts) would receive about $26 million (excluding Tier 3).

That's a difference of $5 million.

All Big 12 schools have Tier 3 TV deals.

More accurate statement: Several Big 12 teams make more in television money than any SEC team, while the rest are slightly below SEC TV payouts.

Any non-delusional, non-aggie fan can clearly see that "The difference between a non-Texas Big 12 team and a SEC team on revenue is almost $10 million a year" is utter horseshite.
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
13189 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:52 pm to
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I think eventually you will see invitations extended to LSU and A&M for the Big 12.


Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:53 pm to
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You seem so shocked that the mighty Texas or OU would play them, yet Texas and OU play the likes of Iowa St. and West Virginia every year already.


West Virginia is a waaaaaaay better program than Iowa St. or Cinci
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:54 pm to
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He's just trolling,


Pretty much.

Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44008 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 5:40 pm to
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Texas A&M distance from schools

Where did this come from, and why is it relevant?
I (and many Ags) fly to away flames.
The only distance that matters to me is the span between my Park 'N Fly parking spot at the airport and the terminal.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 6:45 pm to
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While that's not exactly true (Kansas gets $6 million - $7 million from Time Warner for television only),

One of those schools you refer to is Oklahoma, right?



No, I was referring to Kansas. OU simply isn't going to keep up with the SEC moneywise the next decade. Hence part the of the reason they are putting HALF the money into facilities than they planned not to long ago.

Kansas might keep up with the SEC. Depends on their basketball success level.

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SEC teams get $31 million each for all tiers of TV.

Big 12 teams (on a per-team basis, excluding partial payouts) would receive about $26 million (excluding Tier 3).

That's a difference of $5 million.


I am normally try not to be rude, but you are being an IDIOT. There is no other way to put it.

The numbers you are quoting are THIS YEARS numbers. Aka year 1 of the SEC Network THAT WASN'T EVEN A FULL YEAR. You would be correct that if A&M left this year it would be a $5-6 million gap, but that is because of incomplete numbers.

Next year, and pretty much every year the next ten years, a school like Baylor is going to make ten million dollars a year less OR MORE than what A&M is getting from TV money. This isn't even a bookmarkable post, I can find article after article that talks about how soon the SEC and the B1G will all be making over 35-6 million a year while the other Power 5 conferences will be stuck at around the 25-6 million mark. I am talking about at the numbers that will happen going forward and not basing everything on a one year consideration because its obviously not a perfect data point.

I get it though, in the Big 12 apparently one year is a huge sample size. One year of a playoff and it's already looking at conference games or expansion. So I will just let you know the SEC looks a little more longterm, like what will happen over the next five years. That is what I am talking about.

The whole thread is about A&M going back to the Big 12, which would HAVE TO happen in the future. Aka number from this year simply don't matter more than being an indicator of how awesome it will truly be in the SEC.

But go ahead and beat your chest about some Big 12 teams being ahead in the aberration year just like the commissioner did before he bitched about the LHN. You might want to mentally prepare yourself for next year though when EVERY SEC team does better than any Big 12 team not named Texas (and maybe Kansas). And frick, we might even surpass Texas in five or so years. One just one of us, but ALL of us.

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All Big 12 schools have Tier 3 TV deals.



Kinda. Some aren't even pure Tier 3 deals, it is basically EVERYTHING Fox and ESPN wouldn't buy (so Tier 3 and 4 and even merchandising) to try and get a few million more out of their situation.

If you want to play this game I can pull out one quote after another from important people in the Big 12 who would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have what the SEC has (aka a Big 12 Network) if that damn LHN wasn't in the way. I wouldn't beat my chest about Texas Tech's all inclusive Tier 3,4,5 deal for a couple million bucks. They would much rather have what we have I promise you. So would everyone in the Big 12 not named Texas, and hell even some Texas fans I have talked to are embarrassed about the obvious failure that is the LHN.

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Any non-delusional, non-aggie fan can clearly see that "The difference between a non-Texas Big 12 team and a SEC team on revenue is almost $10 million a year" is utter horseshite.



I just quoted this so everyone can see the EXACT lack of vision that eventually will doom the Big 12. I am ashamed to say that A&M used to take part in this kind of tunnel vision. I am glad we now have business partners that can show us a better path.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 6:49 pm to
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Dude, we wear overalls and cargo shorts. Where are you getting this cowboy hat shite from?



Don't sell out our Texan culture to "fit in", baw.


Besides, LSU and their weirdo French culture and Florida with their jewish-elderly-wildman-cocaine culture are huge outliers too. Every state in tSouth has uniqueness.

And dude, you must have NOT gone to Texas A&M if you don't think we're a Wranglers and Cowboy boots school.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:09 pm to
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Don't sell out our Texan culture to "fit in", baw.


I am not. You have been to games. It is a lot of overalls in the student section and pretty much maroon tourist clothing elsewhere. I have seen more no cattle ten gallon hats at a Texas game.

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And dude, you must have NOT gone to Texas A&M if you don't think we're a Wranglers and Cowboy boots school


I mean there is that element sure. It is a very Texan school, with Texan music and Texas styling. It feels rural, and not very metropolitan. But it isn't like Tarleton State University where it is all shite kicker U. Many of the kids come from the burbs, and you are just as likely (I think more) to see someone wearing a baseball cap and sandels around campus as you are to see someone Cowboyed up.

Where I will give us credit is our guys are the real deal. I mean some of those jacked up trucks have never hauled something heavy ever, but the guys wearing the hats aren't doing it for the Dallas reason. I respect that.

What I was replying to is some notion that we fit the stereotype put forth in The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas, and we know that isn't true.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:22 pm to
A&M embodies the Texas culture better than any other school, in my opinion. Not all shite kickers, but still has all flavors from all parts of the state. Nobody is excluded.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:47 pm to
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There's an open invitation to LSU in every conference in America.


This.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:49 pm to
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There's an open invitation to LSU in every conference in America.


This.



Hurry up and take that invite, then. GTFO. Making the entire conference smell like corn dogs and piss.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:50 pm to
That is a much better way of saying it!

Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:50 pm to
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There's an open invitation to LSU in every conference in America.


Except the Big10, Pac12, and Ivy league?
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:52 pm to
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Hurry up and take that invite, then. GTFO. Making the entire conference smell like corn dogs and piss.



You love us and you know it .
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:54 pm to
Y'all are fun

Fanbases just share way too many traits, too much proximity, and too much passion for football.

Wait.

No such thing!
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:56 pm to
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A&M embodies the Texas culture better than any other school


We really do. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is entirely subjective

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all flavors from all parts of the state. Nobody is excluded


We are legion
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:58 pm to
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You love us and you know it

Of course we love you poor, trashy, nutria-corndog, creole, Justin-Wilson-talking, river trash, swamp kitties. That's why we hang out on this site. Pure arse-backwards entertainment.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 7:59 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:58 pm to
It's like I've been saying since ya'll entered the conference, it's only gonna take one time of y'all beating us and the shite will get real between A&M and LSU.

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:00 pm to
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It's like I've been saying since ya'll entered the conference, it's only gonna take one time of y'all beating us and the shite will get real between A&M and LSU.


If it's not ALREADY real, that should do it. I think it already is real.














But, LSU is NOT our rival, goddammit. NOT!!!
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