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re: A&M player says no thanks to going back to the Big12
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:16 pm to p_bubel
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:16 pm to p_bubel
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He did actually.
He only omitted two. Austin and Waco. Both of which are less than 2 hours drive.
How convenient. Maybe I can make a list of A&M's distance to all the SEC schools and I will leave out LSU and Arkansas to skew the numbers.
So he adds in West Virginia and leaves out TCU. Just fail all the way around. Hiliarious.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 1:19 pm
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:18 pm to ctiger69
Baton Rouge is closer than 3 of our 5 former big south opponents
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:19 pm to Old Sarge
More cherry picking to hide the true facts.
Moral victory?
Moral victory?
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:27 pm to ctiger69
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Texas A&M will eventually go back to the Big 12 because that is where they belong. It is just a matter of time once the newest of the SEC wears off. Their closest road venue is Baton Rouge. After a couple of piss balloons 50% of their fan base will refuse to come again. This leaves the Miss schools as the next closest destination and that says it all. A&M is just to far west and isolated. Texas will do away with their dumb network. The Big 12 will start their own network and A&M will have their out. They will say the LHN is the reason they left and now they can return again.
I would compare this to UCLA leaving the Pac 12 and joining the Big 12. UCLA is mad b/c USC is kicking their arse in football every year so they leave. It would just be a matter of time before UCLA went back to the Pac 12 and play in conference games against the three other California schools. Like A&M for the Big 12, historically UCLA belongs in the PAC 12.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:32 pm to Dr RC
Good Lord, found ourselves a real winner here. 
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:34 pm to p_bubel
He's just trolling, I'm jumping out of the boat
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:37 pm to ctiger69
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Why are you at it compare A&M's driving distance to Big 12 North vs the SEC east.
Ok.
Nashville (775 miles) is closer than Lincoln, Boulder, and Ames.
Knoxville (952 miles) is closer than Boulder.
Athens (913 miles) is closer than Ames and Boulder.
Gainesville (949 miles) is closer than Boulder and the same distance as Ames.
Lexington (985 miles) is further away than all of them, as is Columbia, SC, as I already stated.
Here's what you fail to factor in though - the four year rotation of conference games:
Year 1: 1579 miles
at Austin (107 miles)
at Stillwater (433 miles)
at Ames (948 miles)
at Waco (91 miles)
Year 2: 2410 miles
at Lubbock (440 miles)
at Norman (357 miles)
at Boulder (953 miles)
at Manhattan (660 miles)
Year 3: 1316 miles
at Austin
at Waco
at Stillwater
at Lawrence (685 miles)
Year 4: 2362 miles
at Lubbock
at Norman
at Lincoln (803 miles)
at Columbia (762 miles)
That averages out to 1917 miles a year for conference games.
Let's compare that to a typical 2 year SEC cycle using only true road games.
Year 1: 3061 miles
at Starkville (587 miles)
at Auburn (779 miles)
at Tuscaloosa (643 miles)
at Columbia (1052 miles)
Year 2: 1808 miles
at Oxford (582 miles)
at Baton Rouge (366 miles)
AVERAGE of the remainder of the east schools (860 miles)
That averages out to 2435 miles, which is a whopping 518 miles more than the big 12 average...or the equivalent of a trip from Dallas to San Antonio to Houston
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:24 pm to ctiger69
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Lobotomy, why don't you compare the driving distance from A&M to the Big 12 South schools and to the SEC west schools? What is the average distance? Very convenient for you leave the important driving distance out.
Why the hell does this matter in 2015? Seriously? Driving distances? Are you kidding me? You really think ANY move in realignment so far was determined by freaking driving distances?
The difference between a non-Texas Big 12 team and a SEC team on revenue is almost $10 million a year. For $10 million extra freaking dollars a year we could rent a plane for every single sport.
There is no way for the Big 12 to catch up. Even if there was a Big 12 Network it doesn't have the footprint or the brands to keep up with SEC Network money. The whole reason Texas did the LHN on their own is they did the research and THEY would make more with a LHN arrangement. If they thought they could make more with a Big 12 Network arrangement the LHN would already be dead. Problem is the Big 12's footprint is shite, and adding A&M doesn't help.
Freaking driving distances. Its like you stopped paying attention to what mattered in this sport 15 years ago.
The ONLY way A&M is in the same conference/division as the Big 12 again is if legislation or regulation forces college football to have an all-powerful dictator and that dictator redoes all the conferences to be better regional fits. Basically the sport would have to almost be dead and the savior puts a gun to our head, that is what it would take for us to go back.
We will NEVER do it willingly, even if the money is LESS (which it will never be). To say otherwise is to show ignorance about how stubborn an Aggie can be.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:28 pm to PAGator
That would suck all the sec teams would be in the east with both Mississippi schools and Arkansas with us. The west would be sooooo boring every week
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:34 pm to cardboardboxer
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The ONLY way A&M is in the same conference/division as the Big 12 again is if legislation or regulation forces college football to have an all-powerful dictator and that dictator redoes all the conferences to be better regional fits. Basically the sport would have to almost be dead and the savior puts a gun to our head, that is what it would take for us to go back.
That, or Texas secession from the United States.
(which is a helluva lot more likely than A&M willingly re-joining the B12
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:34 pm to swinetime
Stupid article. Do you think any team in the SEC would have more than a 0% chance of being interested in switching to the Big12? 
Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:56 pm to FlyingTiger85
ctiger69 does
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:29 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Lobotomy
Let me just put the facts in black and white since you are dancing around them like a fool.
Texas A&M distance from schools
Big 12 South:
Texas= 106 miles
Baylor= 92 miles
Texas Tech= 426 miles
Oklahoma St= 436 miles
Oklahoma= 357 miles
SEC West:
LSU= 366 miles
Arkansas= 512 miles
Ole Miss= 598 miles
Miss St= 567 miles
Bama= 628 miles
Auburn= 783 miles
Average distance to Big 12 South Schools= 283 miles
Average distance to SEC West schools= 576 miles
Average distance to SEC West schools + USC= 642 miles
Including South Carolina (Big 12 never had cross conference permanent partners)
South Carolina= 1,037 miles
Now, I'll work on the cross opponents average.
Owned. Lobo, you are like a politician and a very ignorant one at that. Your stupidity is beyond measure. I just owned you with black and white facts. Run along kid. Before you embarss yourself some more.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 11:51 am
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:39 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Texas A&M distance from schools:
Big 12 North:
Kansas St= 661 miles
Kansas= 686 miles
Missouri= 761 miles
Nebraska= 808 miles
Iowa St= 949 miles
Colorado= 969 miles
SEC East:
Florida= 954 miles
South Carolina= 1,037 miles
Georgia= 896 miles
Tennessee= 940 miles
Vanderbilt= 785 miles
Kentucky= 978 miles
Average distance from Big 12 North schools= 805 miles
Average distance from SEC East schools= 936 miles
Texas A&M's average distance to all Big 12 schools= 568 miles
Texas A&M's average distance to all SEC schools= 754 miles
A&M is somewhat of an isolated school in the SEC and they were a much better fit, geography and culture wise, in the Big 12.
Big 12 North:
Kansas St= 661 miles
Kansas= 686 miles
Missouri= 761 miles
Nebraska= 808 miles
Iowa St= 949 miles
Colorado= 969 miles
SEC East:
Florida= 954 miles
South Carolina= 1,037 miles
Georgia= 896 miles
Tennessee= 940 miles
Vanderbilt= 785 miles
Kentucky= 978 miles
Average distance from Big 12 North schools= 805 miles
Average distance from SEC East schools= 936 miles
Texas A&M's average distance to all Big 12 schools= 568 miles
Texas A&M's average distance to all SEC schools= 754 miles
A&M is somewhat of an isolated school in the SEC and they were a much better fit, geography and culture wise, in the Big 12.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:40 pm to ctiger69
Don't bother.
It's a stupid arse argument you're trying to make and no one is buying it.
We have no interest in the Big Whatever. Sure as shite won't leave due to something as retarded as driving distances.
It's a stupid arse argument you're trying to make and no one is buying it.
We have no interest in the Big Whatever. Sure as shite won't leave due to something as retarded as driving distances.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:53 pm to ctiger69
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they were a much better fit, geography and culture wise, in the Big 12.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:55 pm to cardboardboxer
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they were a much better fit, geography and culture wise, in the Big 12.
True dat, b/c they are weird and abnormal they might not fit in with anybody. But with Texas A&M's stupid hand signals they do, cowboy boots and cowboy hats (southwest culture) they do fit in much more with the Big 12 South schools than the SEC West.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 7/24/15 at 3:58 pm to cardboardboxer
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The difference between a non-Texas Big 12 team and a SEC team on revenue is almost $10 million a year.
Are you talking about television revenue?
Why are you comparing Tier 1-3 TV payouts for SEC teams with Tier 1-2 (and excluding Tier 3) for Big 12 teams?
Answer: Because you know that would invalidate your statement.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:04 pm to ctiger69
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True dat, b/c they are weird and abnormal they might not fit in with anybody. But with Texas A&M's stupid hand signals they do, cowboy boots and cowboy hats (southwest culture) they do fit in much more with the Big 12 South schools than the SEC West.
Dude, we wear overalls and cargo shorts. Where are you getting this cowboy hat shite from? Plus I know PLENTY of southern gentlemen who wear cowboy boots.
Here is the cultural fit that matters:
We REALLY REALLY REALLY give a shite, even when our team sucks, just like the SEC.
Now that Nebraska is gone EVERY other program in the conference in a fair weather program.
The end.
Posted on 7/24/15 at 4:09 pm to texashorn
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Are you talking about television revenue?
Of course. What would I be talking about, Playoff Revenue?
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Why are you comparing Tier 1-3 TV payouts for SEC teams with Tier 1-2 (and excluding Tier 3) for Big 12 teams?
Because only two Big 12 teams get anything worth a damn just from Tier 3. The rest have to package their Tier 4 with their Tier 3 and pray to God someone will throw a couple million at them for it.
I mean, that is the whole point. The Big 12 doesn't have a conference network so the only program GUARANTEED to make SEC money is Texas, and only if the LHN continues to exist. The LHN existing keeps a Big 12 Network from existing, so at most that $10 million dollar mark gets cut down by a million or two for A&M.
It is hard to even guess that though, when program like WVU have to bundle all this other crap with their Tier 3 (crap we get paid for outside of the conference in the SEC too) to get it sold. At the end of the day a WVU might be making the whole 10 million more in the SEC, because they could sell things like radio rights separately from the Tier 3 PPV level games.
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