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re: A response to Tenn Stud's appearance on Finebaum
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:03 am to antibarner
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:03 am to antibarner
Alabama cheated, and then Alabama got punished.
End of story.
End of story.
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:16 am to RollTide1987
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None of them got hit. Not one.
Wasn't UK collateral damage to everyone's good time on this one?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:18 am to auburnphan23
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Nobody cares about you bammers tears. 99 percent of the tradition you morons beat your chest about was built on cheating and dirty tricks.
Laughable when you guys pay-for-play schemes have been exposed on multiple occasions.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:24 am to 14&Counting
Yeah, Auburn cheats...just like everyone else in big-time college athletics.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:40 am to bamawriter
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Roy Adams decided to tattle-tale on Alabama to the NCAA. He included his tattle-tales online, so everyone knew exactly where the NCAA was getting the dirt on Alabama. Phil Fulmer helped. So did Steve Spurrier, Houston Nutt and David Cutcliffe (while he was at Ole Miss)...but nobody ever mentions that.
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There is a pretty massive difference between reporting something to the NCAA, and actively assisting in the NCAA's investigation so that they'll turn a blind eye to your program.
Exactly...each of the coaches did the former, rather than the latter. Great point, Gump.
eta quote.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:46 am to madmaxvol
You're acting like Bama fans should be just as upset at the coaches who did the former (Spurrier, Nutt, Cutcliffe) as they are at the coach who did the latter (Fulmer).
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:48 am to bamawriter
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You're acting like Bama fans should be just as upset at the coaches who did the former (Spurrier, Nutt, Cutcliffe) as they are at the coach who did the latter (Fulmer).
Bama fans should just get over it.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:51 am to Vols&Shaft83
quote:And stop watching Finebaum and old geezers like TennStud.
Bama fans should just get over it.
Some Bama folks will never understand that we are in the midst one of the best runs in Bama football history - frick the past and ENJOY the present!
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:52 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Bama fans should just get over it.
I agree. I'm not saying that any Bama fan should give a second thought to Fulmer at this point.
But for the past 12 or 13 years, there have been Vol fans (madmax obviously among them) who have tried to paint it like Fulmer didn't do anything that a number of other coaches didn't also do when it came to turning in Bama on the Means fiasco. That claim is completely false.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:56 am to bamawriter
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You're acting like Bama fans should be just as upset at the coaches who did the former (Spurrier, Nutt, Cutcliffe) as they are at the coach who did the latter (Fulmer).
If you think that Spurrier didn't call the NCAA and turn over information, you are fooling yourself.
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After his testimony, Donnan said in a courthouse hallway that he and several
other coaches talked among themselves about the need for an NCAA review of
recruiting at Alabama, including Means' signing.
The other coaches, he said, included Phillip Fulmer of Tennessee; Steve
Spurrier formerly of Florida and now with South Carolina; Houston Nutt of
Arkansas and former Mississippi coach David Cutcliffe, now an assistant at
Notre Dame.
LINK
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He said former Florida coach Steve Spurrier, now at South Carolina, as well as Arkansas coach Houston Nutt, former Mississippi coach David Cutcliffe and "a whole bunch of other coaches for a long time said the same thing."
LINK
And finally,
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“(Another) thing that was not told to (the press) is that the Albert Means violation was not reported by the University of Tennessee,” Wilson said, “but by the University of Arkansas. ...
“All of these facts totally refuted the UT conspiracy in the case.”
LINK
Actually, Bama fans should be mad at their coaches who not only broke the rules (and nearly got their program the death penalty), but paid $150,000 for a guy who wasn't even good enough to make it to the next level. Saban would have processed this kid by year 2.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:56 am to RT1941
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Some Bama folks will never understand that we are in the midst one of the best runs in Bama football history
And simultaneously we are having the worst run in Tennessee football history.
What more could Bama fans want? Honestly? I mean besides Auburn going on probation?
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:58 am to Vols&Shaft83
We want the world Chico, and everything in it.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:00 pm to bamawriter
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But for the past 12 or 13 years, there have been Vol fans (madmax obviously among them) who have tried to paint it like Fulmer didn't do anything that a number of other coaches didn't also do when it came to turning in Bama on the Means fiasco. That claim is completely false.
Here is the thing that Bama fans don't get...Bama admitted to paying $150,000 in the wrong. They broke the rules. Quit playing the victim 15 years later...Bama wasn't the victim...they were the culprit.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:01 pm to madmaxvol
None of those coaches actively participated in the investigation, nor did any of them appear as a secret witness, nor did any of their schools coincidentally receive a pass on an infractions case after playing private investigator. Only Fulmer fell into that category.
You can argue that Fulmer did nothing wrong. That's fine. It's not worth the pissing match. But arguing that Spurrier or Nutt or whoever did the same thing Fulmer did is inaccurate.
You can argue that Fulmer did nothing wrong. That's fine. It's not worth the pissing match. But arguing that Spurrier or Nutt or whoever did the same thing Fulmer did is inaccurate.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:02 pm to bamawriter
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You can argue that Fulmer did nothing wrong. That's fine. It's not worth the pissing match. But arguing that Spurrier or Nutt or whoever did the same thing Fulmer did is inaccurate.
Noted...
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:02 pm to madmaxvol
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Bama wasn't the victim...they were the culprit.
I've never said otherwise.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:03 pm to TT9
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We want the world Chico, and everything in it.
We will fight, irl, at the motherfricking Krystal on Lovell Road. And your smug attitude will be diminished when your arse meets my foot coming over the middle.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:04 pm to madmaxvol
Finebaum used to have Jim Donnan on his show a few years ago. Don't know if he still does or not. Donnan stated on Finebaum's show that a group of SEC coaches told DuBose to his face they were going to turn him if he didn't do something to get Bama's recruiting under control. I actually heard Donnan make that statement live
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:19 pm to auburnphan23
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Donnan stated on Finebaum's show that a group of SEC coaches told DuBose to his face they were going to turn him if he didn't do something to get Bama's recruiting under control.
Mike DuBose had neither the will nor the competence to bring our boosters under control in regards to recruiting. The man loved Alabama football. There is no question about that. But he knew jack about coaching a big time program.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:28 pm to RT1941
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Some Bama folks will never understand that we are in the midst one of the best runs in Bama football history - frick the past and ENJOY the present!
Pretty much this - but don't FORGET the past. To do so could invite a return to the DuBose days.
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Finebaum used to have Jim Donnan on his show a few years ago. Don't know if he still does or not. Donnan stated on Finebaum's show that a group of SEC coaches told DuBose to his face they were going to turn him if he didn't do something to get Bama's recruiting under control. I actually heard Donnan make that statement live
Just when I'm sure there's no hope, you go and make a relatively decent post.
I've never heard this story, but I don't doubt it at all. DuBose is literally the worst (yes, including Ears) to walk the Bama sidelines. It would be easy to blame it on lack of experience as a head coach, but the truth is he set the tone himself with his own personal behavior.
I'll never have any love for Fulmer but I can't blame him for Bama's problems during that stretch. If DuBose/Bama had been doing anything close to what they should have been doing, there wouldn't have been anything for Fulmer to use as ammunition.
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