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re: 9 game conference schedule: Yay or Nay?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:41 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:41 am to JesusQuintana
Until the SEC goes to 16 teams and 4 pods, which seems inevitable at this point, it's either 9 games or get rid of the permanent opponent. Seeing as the latter isn't going to happen, the 9 game schedule is the simplest fix until the next expansion, which I expect within the next 10 years.
Teams need to suck it up and play the tougher schedule. 9 conference games (1 permanent and 2 rotating), 1 P5 OOC, 2 cupcakes and 2 byes. It not great, but it ensures that each team plays every conference opponent within 6 years, keeps up the "traditional rivalries", and keeps the divisions (which I think need to stay).
Teams need to suck it up and play the tougher schedule. 9 conference games (1 permanent and 2 rotating), 1 P5 OOC, 2 cupcakes and 2 byes. It not great, but it ensures that each team plays every conference opponent within 6 years, keeps up the "traditional rivalries", and keeps the divisions (which I think need to stay).
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:41 am to JesusQuintana
Go to 9 or create some formula where Tennessee-Alabama and Georgia-Auburn can play each other once a year and the other 10 teams can drop the permanent other division game. If we're going to have so many teams, I'd like to see Missouri,Georgia and South Carolina in Baton Rouge more than once every 10-12 yrs.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:45 am to JesusQuintana
Move Missouri and Texas A&M to the big 12
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:50 am to coachcrisp
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Look at the brutal schedules of all the west teams last year and rethink it. Also, I doubt a 9th conference game would eliminate the patsies on most teams' schedule, but would eliminate the big time OOC games we are enjoying now.
We lost those bowl games because the SEC West wasn't as good as most people thought. Ole Miss and MSU we're extremely overrated, and Bama had major issues all year. Plus, most SEC West teams had a month off before the bowl game.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:13 am to Porker Face
I think Arkansas and LSU are better fits TBH
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:25 am to JesusQuintana
Only the SEC would try to fix a problem that is easy to fix (no permanent opponents) by injecting a far worse problem into the mix. Not only do you retain the competitive imbalance of permanent opponents, but you get the additional negative externality of a home/road imbalance. Nine games is like trying to fix your sprained ankle by cutting off your leg at the knee.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:28 am to JesusQuintana
I'm probably in the minority, but yay. Would put us on par with other conferences, at least the Big 12/PAC-12/Big 10, and would add strength of schedule. I could see this bitin' us in the butt in the future when it's a close call for the committee to pick the play-off teams...think those teams playing 9 conference games will get the benefit of the doubt over us (and the ACC). Also, I'd much rather play another SEC school as opposed to a non-Power 5 or FCS school...
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:04 am to JesusQuintana
I vote yay.
The 4 home 5 road game split isn't as big a deal as some make it out to be, and it literally remedies itself every other year so there is absolutely zero built in bias in that.
With a 14 team conference, playing only 8 games really makes us a "conference" in only the loosest sense of the word.
The 4 home 5 road game split isn't as big a deal as some make it out to be, and it literally remedies itself every other year so there is absolutely zero built in bias in that.
With a 14 team conference, playing only 8 games really makes us a "conference" in only the loosest sense of the word.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:10 am to I-59 Tiger
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Go to 9 or create some formula where Tennessee-Alabama and Georgia-Auburn can play each other once a year and the other 10 teams can drop the permanent other division game. If we're going to have so many teams,
Let me clue you in on something. Ole Miss does not want to drop Vandy as a permanent rival. Same with UK and MSU. The permanent rivalries are never going away. Get over it
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:18 am to StopRobot
Since the permanent rivalries are almost certainly not going away a 9 game conference schedule is about the only way to play some teams more then once a decade or so. It wouldn't hurt with our strength of schedule and while schools would lose a home game every other year the money coming in from our TV deals should make up for it.
It probably would have an impact on our OOC scheduling though. 9 conference games and a big OOC match up is a tall order. Considering that Army is considered a P5 member by the SEC get ready for half of their games to be scheduled against the SEC, with the rest of the SEC on their waiting list. Schools like Iowa State and Purdue would also become very popular opponents.
It probably would have an impact on our OOC scheduling though. 9 conference games and a big OOC match up is a tall order. Considering that Army is considered a P5 member by the SEC get ready for half of their games to be scheduled against the SEC, with the rest of the SEC on their waiting list. Schools like Iowa State and Purdue would also become very popular opponents.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:49 am to coachcrisp
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We saw what happened to the SEC west in the bowl games last year. IMO, there were too many big, emotional games during the season that diminished the performance of those teams at bowl time. Another conference game would just add to that fatigue.
Get a grip on reality kid. The schedules are not as hard as you make it out to be. You are brainwashed by ESPN hype to drive ratings.
Georgia Tech beat Georgia and beat Miss. State. I guess the loss by Miss. State was caused by fatigue while Georgia's wasn't. lol. Dumb.
There was no elite SEC team the last two seasons. Maybe there will be on this season, but heading into the season there doesn't appear to be an elite team.
UAB had over 400 yards against Miss. State (some large number like that). Ole Miss only lead Memphis 7-3 heading into the 4th quarter. Texas A&M got pushed well into the 4th quarter by some no named Alabama school.
The conference has some great talent, but it isn't the NFL.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:52 am to nebraskafaninwi
I have answered this in other threads, but when you play a "conference" team once or twice a decade or even up to 12 years, that isn't a conference, that is a situation where teams are under control of the media rights.
Do whatever it takes to play more conference teams. They could even make pods with the current team and get teams to play more often or do away with divisions and rotate games faster so teams play more often.
It is dumb for a team like Auburn to only play TN once or twice every 12 years. 2 or 4 games in 24 years?????? DUMB!!!
Do whatever it takes to play more conference teams. They could even make pods with the current team and get teams to play more often or do away with divisions and rotate games faster so teams play more often.
It is dumb for a team like Auburn to only play TN once or twice every 12 years. 2 or 4 games in 24 years?????? DUMB!!!
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:10 pm to JesusQuintana
Yea
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:47 pm to JesusQuintana
Yay
Posted on 5/12/15 at 1:03 pm to East Coast Band
If you went to non divisions with 2 permanent & 6 rotating. Would these permanents work
UA -AU/UT
ARK - TEXAM/LSU
AU - UA/UGA
UF - UGA/UK
UGA - UF/AU
LSU - OM/ARK
TEXAM - ARK/MU
OM - LSU/MSU
MSU - UK/OM
USC - MU/VU
UT- VU/UA
VU - UT/USC
MU - USC/TEXAM
UK - MSU/UF
you could end up playing the rest of the conference 3 times over 6 yr span.
UA -AU/UT
ARK - TEXAM/LSU
AU - UA/UGA
UF - UGA/UK
UGA - UF/AU
LSU - OM/ARK
TEXAM - ARK/MU
OM - LSU/MSU
MSU - UK/OM
USC - MU/VU
UT- VU/UA
VU - UT/USC
MU - USC/TEXAM
UK - MSU/UF
you could end up playing the rest of the conference 3 times over 6 yr span.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:00 pm to Pelican fan99
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and just get rid of the sec championship game?
Ncaa is about to eliminate the requirement for divisions to have a championship game, so just take the top two
Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:02 pm to JesusQuintana
for it.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:33 pm to 3rddownonthe8
frick no
Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:06 pm to nebraskafaninwi
quote:I don't follow your reasoning on this. Are you really trying to insinuate that the SEC (especially the west) schedules weren't extremely difficult? First, Georgia literally gave Tech their game, then you seem surprised that OOC teams gave uninspired SEC teams hard games. Actually you help make my point by pointing out that the SEC teams were lackluster in their performances. Letdowns happen when a team plays a perceived breather between tough conference games.
Get a grip on reality kid. The schedules are not as hard as you make it out to be. You are brainwashed by ESPN hype to drive ratings. Georgia Tech beat Georgia and beat Miss. State. I guess the loss by Miss. State was caused by fatigue while Georgia's wasn't. lol. Dumb. There was no elite SEC team the last two seasons. Maybe there will be on this season, but heading into the season there doesn't appear to be an elite team. UAB had over 400 yards against Miss. State (some large number like that). Ole Miss only lead Memphis 7-3 heading into the 4th quarter. Texas A&M got pushed well into the 4th quarter by some no named Alabama school. The conference has some great talent, but it isn't the NFL.
I suspect that next bowl season we'll see an entirely different result from bowl games. Some folks got their attention!
Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:08 pm to GeauxToBed
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I'm against it.
Do away with permanent rivals if a better rotation against the other division is the desired outcome.
/thread
For the eleventy billionth time, the REAL solution is to Move Bama and Auburn to the east, Mizzou and Vandy to the west and eliminate the cross division rivals. All the traditional rivalries still get played (UT vs Bama, UGA vs Auburn, Bama vs Auburn) and all the other teams get to see each other on a meaningful basis.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 4:11 pm
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