Started By
Message

re: 6 team playoff (not 8 team playoff) is perfect

Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Simple, fair, inclusive, entertaining


entertaining is as irrelevant as irrelevant can get when it comes to this. Adn as the other poster said, it's not inclusive...it's the opposite actually as it would allow the most teams in history to have a shot at the title that late in the season.

And I stand by my point...if after 13 games you're only 8th you've lost your chance. Yes, I know in your scenirio there aren't "rankings" exactly, but you know what I'm saying. Each team should be in the playoff based on the merit of what they've done. If a team loses 3 times in the regular season and is unranked and lucks into a CCG win, they shouldn't automatically be in "just because".
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

3 at large lesser conference champions based on SOS.


quote:

fair




Fair how? That's one of the dumber proposals I've seen. Just come out and say it. This has nothing to do with fair and everything to do with Alabama being the national champion in 2011
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

1+2 get bye week.


The problem is that there are times when #1 and #2 is not that clear and giving them a bye is a huge advantage for something so subjective.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:17 pm to
apparently CFB needs to be completely fair and equal to everybody, no matter what. Nevermind you lost 3 or 4 games, that doesn't matter. You still have an equal shot at the title as a team that's 13-0. Real fair I tell ya.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:20 pm to
And never mind that your conference competition was Southern Miss and Louisiana Tech while Auburn gets Alabama, Georgia, and LSU every year. Totally equal playing fields. Western Kentucky should totally get a bid because they won their league. I mean listen to these idiots. It's like letting Bama in the NFL playoffs because they're undefeated. Sorry Saints, you didn't win your division and Alabama did win theirs. Doesn't matter that they drew LSU instead of the Falcons
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Idiot fans just want it expanded so their undeserving team can get in.


Exactly.

If a team can't make the cut at 4 teams, then how the frick can they be one of the top 2.

This year the BCS system would suffice.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:22 pm to
Yep. Fairness will never be obtained no matter what we do so let's keep this thing as streamlined as possible without messing with the regular season. That means keep it at 4.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Not all conferences are created equal.

You say that like it's a deal killer, but it really has no bearing on a legitimate playoff.
quote:

The SEC could conceivably field a 3 loss Champion that got buttfricked by an ACC team that isn't playing in their conference championship the week prior.

So what? Every conference has a champion, let them play in a tournament to find out who's the best.
quote:

Put the best teams in the playoff.

THAT'S what's stupid. You people are so used to opinion polls, you don't even know how to get away from them. How do you know who the "best teams" are? Who decides? You think VOTING on who's the best is better than letting them find out on the field?
quote:

Notre Dame isn't in a conference.

They'd join one if they wanted to play for national championships.
quote:

The big 12 doesn't play a conference championship game.

It shouldn't matter how a conference determines its champion, but they would eventually have a championship game.
quote:

There isn't an equal playing field amongst the conferences, or even the divisions for that matter.

That line of reasoning is stupid and leads you to the conclusion that there's no such thing as a bone fide conference champion.

Mark my words, what's best for college football is an 8 team tournament of champions, 5 P5 teams, and 3 at-large based on SOS. No byes, no wild cards. That shite is for children playing cards.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:28 pm to
Why do Bama fans get so upset at the idea of a slightly expanded playoff?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

entertaining is as irrelevant as irrelevant can get when it comes to this.

You've ENTIRELY lost your perspective.
quote:

Adn as the other poster said, it's not inclusive...it's the opposite actually as it would allow the most teams in history to have a shot at the title that late in the season.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but in my system, yes a 3-loss team could make the playoffs (there has been exactly ONE 3-loss champion in the entire history of the SEC) so that means that it's still relatively wide open at the end of the season.


quote:

but you know what I'm saying

Yeah, you still want people who have nothing to do with football VOTE on who gets to play for the championship.

That's just outright STUPID.
quote:

Each team should be in the playoff based on the merit of what they've done

Exactly - by winning their conference championship.
quote:

If a team loses 3 times in the regular season and is unranked and lucks into a CCG win, they shouldn't automatically be in "just because".

You're right, they should be in because they are CHAMPIONS.

I'm telling you my system is too tempting for the NCAA not to consider. It would alleviate all the potential lawsuits by the lesser programs. And who knows, every blue moon a lesser 'Cinderella' team might even win it all. That's what I meant by entertaining.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Fair how?

By giving all the conference champions a shot and thereby alleviating the threat of antitrust suits by the smaller programs.
quote:

everything to do with Alabama being the national champion in 2011

I'm sorry, but our current system of having a panel of non-football people pick who's going to the playoffs is the result of 2011. I'm surprised a fan of the team with the most SEC championships would be scared of having that as qualification.

It's simple, win your conference and advance. 1st seed plays 8th seed. Why shouldn't Western Michigan get a shot at knocking off Alabama? Would you rather see the B1G send three teams to a four-team playoff?

quote:

That's one of the dumber proposals I've seen

And yet you think a panel of people who don't know anything about football should vote to determine who gets in. Yeah, that's intelligent.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Why do Bama fans get so upset at the idea of a slightly expanded playoff?

They think it's a conspiracy of LSU fans who are mad about 2011.

All of these years later, and that still haunts them.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

You still have an equal shot at the title as a team that's 13-0

Yeah, especially if that 3-loss SEC champions is playing the 13-0 MAC champion.
quote:

apparently CFB needs to be completely fair and equal to everybody, no matter what

It does if you want to avoid massive law suits by lesser programs.

Apparently CFB needs to be based on the opinions of people who don't have anything to do with football. Why would anyone think that instituting a playoff and maintaining opinion polls as the sole qualifier, would be a good idea?

Condoleezza Rice? Are you fricking kidding me?

That just blows my mind.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

you know what I'm saying


quote:

Yeah, you still want people who have nothing to do with football VOTE on who gets to play for the championship.



If you can C&P for me where I said that I'll eat my hat.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:13 pm to
The 5 and 6 seed get the byes.

Why did Alabama in 2011 get to scout LSU in the SECCG? Alabama players were resting and taking deer antler spray while LSU was having to knock heads with Georgia in December 2011.
Posted by SkepTic
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Dec 2013
65 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:47 pm to
This has always been my ideal scenario. 1&2 get a bye therefore it doesn't add too many games. Now whether it's conference champions or not is debatable. I think it would be interesting to see it as Su h but if you want to actually crown the best team champions you should just go with the top 6 teams regardless of conference.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:50 pm to
2 team playoff is perfect
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40091 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:52 pm to
8 TEAM playoff. 5 P5 Champs get automatic bid, committee selects the 3 wild cards.

Those 8 teams get reseeded by Record > SOS
Posted by TouchdownAlabama
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
1748 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:59 pm to
Nah. A 6-team playoff waters it down. I think the current 2-team playoff is perfect for the college football infrastructure. It makes every game count, and keeps CF an overall more competitive atmosphere -- also, making it harder for undeserving teams to squeak in. Sometimes they do creep in the top 10. If they alter it to 6, just watch them alter it to 8 soon after and make it an even more meaningless circus act. They need to keep it the way it is. It must be cream of the crop on top to be in conversation as best in the land.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted by SkepTic
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Dec 2013
65 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:21 pm to
You don't think Michigan would have a good argument to be in the playoff this year? I mean is there that much difference in teams 4-6?

Also, do you really think going to a six team playoff with one extra game would really change the impact of a loss in the regular season. I can't imagine it would change any.
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter