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Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:20 pm to Badge
Why does it being past staff matter? You still get penalized for cheating, it just means your current coaching staff doesn't get fired.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:23 pm to GeauxPack81
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Why does it being past staff matter? You still get penalized for cheating, it just means your current coaching staff doesn't get fired.
Exactly, it isn't like the NCAA just says "oh well, you have new coaches now, we don't care that y'all cheated a bunch"
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:33 pm to GeauxPack81
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Why does it being past staff matter?
it doesn't. i still can't figure out why Ole Miss seem to think that's relevant
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:34 pm to Badge
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The NCAA has formally notified Mississippi's athletic department of allegations of "roughly 30 violations" across the Rebels' football, women's basketball and track and field programs, Yahoo's Pat Forde reported Friday.
One Ole Miss source tells Steven Godfrey they believe only five of the 32 are alleged football violations, and that coaches are "confident" allegations related to the current staff are secondary violations. In addition, an NCAA source tells Bud Elliott that the "vast majority" of the football allegations are more than two years old.
Forde reports Ole Miss has received an official Notice of Allegations from the NCAA, a formal step that precedes any official declarations of wrongdoing or sanctions:
The school has received a Notice of Allegations from the NCAA enforcement staff alleging roughly 30 violations in football, women's basketball and track and field, sources told Yahoo. It is unclear at present what the breakdown is in terms of violations by sport. The NCAA does not comment on current, pending or potential investigations.
The program has been under institutional fire for some time. Star offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil took a seven-game suspension last season for receiving "impermissible extra benefits," and it's been three years since people started to loudly accuse Freeze of recruiting impropriety.
An Ole Miss official told Godfrey that almost all of the allegations are women's basketball, track, Tunsil, and football from six years ago, during previous coach Houston Nutt's tenure.
Hilarious. All of a sudden OM fan boys want you to believe they know how many allegations are related to what? You gotta be kidding. People are hoping against hope. I mean, we were supposed to believe nothing was up with the investigation. Now all of a sudden everyone at OM knew this was coming so it was no big deal. BS. Panic mode trying to save this class. Which probably won't suffer because of this but it sure is fun watching the scramble. Wait until the next letter is sent to OM with more shite. Gold baby!
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:35 pm to SouthOfHere
I mean we all knew this was coming right?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:37 pm to sorantable
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Of course but this won't stop the melt.
You mean like this one?
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:38 pm to Alahunter
They're not all secondary
From what I'm hearing, OM is going to have to vacate some wins.
From what I'm hearing, OM is going to have to vacate some wins.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:41 pm to lsufball19
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Why does it being past staff matter?
it doesn't. i still can't figure out why Ole Miss seem to think that's relevant
It's relevant because most of the idiots are using this as proof of freeze cheating.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:43 pm to pankReb
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It's relevant because most of the idiots are using this as proof of freeze cheating.
y'all don't even know what the allegations are. the AD is not allowed to disclose anything related to this investigation. Any news report that says what is contained in the allegations, how many are related to football and how severe are full of shite. It's all rumors and speculation. No one is saying this automatically is an indictment on Freeze, but I can tell you I sure as hell wouldn't want the NCAA snooping around the goings on behind the scenes of my program right now. It's not like they can't add more violations if they find out new information that wasn't contained in the initial findings
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:45 pm to ChoadieMcSmalls
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From what I'm hearing, OM is going to have to vacate some wins
I'm sure theyd gladly accept that punishment over any of the other possibilities. Vacating wins has always seemed pointless in my opinion, unless it's a big game like a championship no one will remember it years down the road anyway.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:45 pm to RazorBroncs
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unless it's a big game like a championship
well i don't think ole miss has to worry about that
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:45 pm to Alahunter
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I wonder if they will hit the University with a lack of institutional control.. That's a lot of violations.
With 30, they SHOULD get LOIC... no idea if they will though.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:47 pm to RazorBroncs
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I'm sure theyd gladly accept that punishment over any of the other possibilities. Vacating wins has always seemed pointless in my opinion, unless it's a big game like a championship no one will remember it years down the road anyway.
Yep, scholarship restrictions and postseason suspensions are the best punishments.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:48 pm to Badge
15.63% cheaters
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:48 pm to Badge
Just let it lie. Oregon got the NOA and we were going to burn to the ground. You might lose a couple schollies for three years. What was really a blow to Oregon was the restriction on OVs. That's easy to overcome in the South.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:17 pm to Alahunter
That is a lot of volume, so program LOI is certainly in play. That multiplies sanctions and basic guarantees probation AD-wide. 5 secondary violations in FB wouldn't amount to much though besides the overal probation
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:20 pm to SouthOfHere
One thing to note: if the FB violation are mostly minor and mostly for the old staff and none of the big stuff is the new staff - that should mean a major violation by the old staff. Perhaps I'm not reading that correctly. Fran was creamed for a major DuBose violation though
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:37 pm to pankReb
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quote: quote: Why does it being past staff matter? it doesn't. i still can't figure out why Ole Miss seem to think that's relevant It's relevant because most of the idiots are using this as proof of freeze cheating.
Regardless of if he is or isn't, it still brings in questions regarding it, especially considering the recruits he has managed to pull in along with the Tunsil incident.
I'm sorry but it's obvious something shady has been going on since Freeze was hired. Everyone knows it, just own it but hope the NCAA can't prove it. However, even if they can't prove it, he will be under constant scrutiny from here forward for awhile likely causing him to not be able to use those "methods" of recruiting for fear of being caught.
Either way, this is likely the end of OM having top ten classes for awhile. They may land one more this year because of the timing of all this, but this will likely be the last.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:42 pm to EKG
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If true--and football aside--the Ole Miss AD needs to get a better handle on the athletics program.
I believe almost all of this happened under Boone's watch. Doesn't mean our current people in charge won't be seriously scrutinized, but so far Bjork seems to running the department a lot better.
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