re: 2016 Lsu vs Auburn end of game.

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LSU deserved to lose, IMO, based on nothing more than the multiple times LSU wasted precious seconds on that last drive.

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Yes, everyone focuses on that last play for obvious reasons, but the fact is our clock management on that drive was just disastrous, as it frequently was under Miles.

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You realize that even if LSU got the snap off (Which they clearly didn't) that #83 for LSU was never set and the TD would have been called back and after a 5 yard penalty for illegal motion the down would have been replayed? Sorry your team, and apparently you, don't understand the concept of time and a clock.

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Then you got this fricking idiot lmao. You can't review plays in which you think a flag should have been thrown

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I forgot about the end of that game.

That was a really bad football game to watch.

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Objectively, the ending was terrible for the officials, regardless of your rooting interest.
Auburn won and LSU's furious that there was no whistle stopping the play to start, and I don't think I've ever seen that before. If it was ruled LSU had won, Auburn would be furious about the zero on the clock and the ref's response of "we saw it differently".
Objective opinion is to allow the officials on the field to control the clock, with a starter's gun or something for the end. Second choice is to have the clock tied to some large signal device, so it automatically goes off- horn, lights etc.

If you don't have that, it becomes arbitrary, at least in the impression of the fans.

My point of view is if the refs allowed the snap and nobody was waving it off at the time, you have to allow it.... and I would say that if the roles were reversed. I don't fault Auburn fans for taking the W, but I think they'd agree that the actual process needs to be corrected.
The NCAA spends time and money looking for little rules changes to mess with every season, this is an obvious one to address- come up with some hard and fast way to clearly show the exact ending of the clock.

My biggest issue is allowing the play and officiating it (the one ref signalled a TD, nobody blew a whistle etc), and then going back and waving it off after review, for, basically, the review official changing a subjective decision on the field (snap in time or not).

That's like going to baseball and allowing video replay to review a pitch... guy walks on a full count, then let's review- ok, he didn't check his swing in time, strike 3 he's out, inning over (game over), thank you and drive safe. People would be screaming bloody murder.

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changing a subjective decision on the field (snap in time or not).


I don't think you know what that word means.

There is Nothing subjective about it, at the snap of the ball, the clock was either at 0:00 or it wasn't.

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This is based on the ref's interpretation. It's subjective.

Look at a lot of other "clock" plays- where the clock stops for a 1st down. Sometimes the clock stops immediately, sometimes you see a second or 2 tick off.

Also regarding "the clock", I've heard multiple times that the refs keep official time, not the big clock on the stadium. You often hear the refs saying to "please reset the clock to ___"; and this is also subjective.

Not crying about LSU losing, as that's done and over with. But the fact remains that the NCAA could definitely figure a more effective means of delineating things, instead of the way they did it that day.

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This is based on the ref's interpretation. It's subjective.

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subjective decision on the field (snap in time or not)

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This is not subjective. It either happens or it doesnt...

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Also regarding "the clock", I've heard multiple times that the refs keep official time, not the big clock on the stadium. You often hear the refs saying to "please reset the clock to ___"; and this is also subjective.

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da fuq...


Your baseball analogy was pretty bad as well. A better one is like the shot clock in basketball...and no one complains when they do review of that, because it's not subjective.

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That's the one thing that didn't go wrong for LSU on that play. It was close, but he wasn't across.

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This is correct.

What most people don't realize is the QB has to be *fully* across the LOS for it to be an illegal forward pass. If all that is behind the LOS is the QB's foot, the forward pass is still legal. When that happens, it may LOOK like the QB is past the LOS, but some times he is not (like in this case).