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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:17 pm to
Ok, the team is showing some grit, some guts and showing signs of pride and belonging. By no means am I saying they're there yet. But I thought they've shown some signs of having matured.

Now, I'd like to see some signs of KA maturing. Maybe it's just me, but he still looks like he's just happy to be sitting at the adult table instead of the kiddie table. He needs to start acting like he belongs at that table. Show some fire.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:49 am to
I think he KA showed some fire lastnight. He actually got out of his coaches box a gew times.

I think the team showed some too. Hung with UK longer than I thought they would.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:51 am to
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Frankly, they have to let the Antlers loose

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Like them or hate them, it almost is their rowdiness that is missing.

I agree......the Antlers help make a home game almost unbearable for visiting teams. Yep they took it over the top but they made life hell for the opposing teams.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I think the team showed some too. Hung with UK longer than I thought they would.


I thought the team did. But KA, even when he goes out of his box looks like he's going mmmmkay, if you say so. Maybe the words spoken aren't so nice but his body language is just very placid, even when out of the box. This young team out there is fighting their hearts out trying to save some scrap of pride. I just think KA has to more demonstrably have their back.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 12:45 pm to
There are a lot of very god head coaches that aren't up and bouncing around on the sidelines. Fred Hoiberg is pretty low key. Several NBA coaches are: Pop, Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr.
Not saying he is as good as those guys, but being super energetic isn't necessarily a marker of good coaching.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:27 pm to
There is no comparison between the NBA and college basketball.

Good coaches know when to lay into their team and also when to light it up and show emotion.

NBA coaches are hardly coaches at all.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:29 pm to
I would disagree that NBA coaches aren't coaches.
But my point is that real coaching isn't done during games it's done in the preparation. That would be film work both of yourself and of your opponent. It's skill development.
That was one of the things that was reported about Anderson at the time of the hire. He was supposed to be very good at prep, but not much if an in game coach.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:54 pm to
We won't come to any sort of agreement on this....I'm just glad the team was excited and didn't quit during the game.

Seeing J3 get T'd up for being mouthy brought some joy to my heart.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:16 pm to
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There are a lot of very god head coaches that aren't up and bouncing around on the sidelines. Fred Hoiberg is pretty low key. Several NBA coaches are: Pop, Phil Jackson, Steve Kerr.


NBA is a completely different beast.

And I'm not saying he has to do it 24/7. But I do think there are times within a game where it pays to have your players' backs. These are kids that are struggling. I think it would go a long way for a coach to demonstrably have their back at the right time.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:20 pm to
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But my point is that real coaching isn't done during games it's done in the preparation. That would be film work both of yourself and of your opponent. It's skill development.


I agree that probably the most important coaching is done in preparation. But they don't stop coaching once the game starts.

quote:

That was one of the things that was reported about Anderson at the time of the hire. He was supposed to be very good at prep, but not much if an in game coach.


This makes sense on what I really wanted to say. Beyond not knowing when to burst a blood vessel, I think he looks lost out there at times. Post picked up his 2nd with a lot of time left in the 1st half. I'm sitting there asking my son why he isn't putting Rosburg in. Tell Rosburg to go in and use his 5 fouls and bang people, while eating clock. Couple minutes later, KA is at the scorer's table like he didn't even know the situation and was like, oh yea, ummm, Rosburg, go in for Post.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:37 pm to
You didn't see him dancing down the line in front of his bench? KA was pretty animated from what I seen. He does have to be careful and not get technicals, his team is at enough disadvantage. But what I seen last night was much different than I've seen him in other games. Some of it may have been due to the fact that it was a very physical game.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:48 pm to
Dude, who knew Rosberg was going to play like he did last night. He was getting after it. The refs screwed up tbis game. They tried to let them play but it got out of control so they clamped down and hard. Once they both were in the bonus, I figured we were done. They were calling some ticky tacky shite.

But as far as KA, I was glad to see this team get physical and they were going straight to the rim with the ball. That's your only chance with UK. Lazy layups will be ejected into the fifth or sixth row. I think UK has trouble defending speed. Mizzou was penetrating opening up the backside. I seen progress last night. UK just has too many horses and they just wore out Mizzou with some help from the refs.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:34 pm to
I know that's a common practice to take players out with 2 fouls in the first half, but I don't like it.
It can take a player and team out of rhythm.
I didn't mind him leaving Post in for a while.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

You didn't see him dancing down the line in front of his bench? KA was pretty animated from what I seen. He does have to be careful and not get technicals, his team is at enough disadvantage. But what I seen last night was much different than I've seen him in other games. Some of it may have been due to the fact that it was a very physical game.


No I must have missed it. His facial expression never changes from the parts of games I've watched.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:41 pm to
Some guys you can get away with doing that. Post can't help but foul when he's in. There's a lot I like about how Post's game has improved, but not taking stupid fouls is not one of them.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:14 pm to
Yeh, his facial expressions are usually about the same. I take it as him wanting to maybe show composure in game situations to his team. I don't know, maybe it's just his personality. I have never seen him jump around like he was doing last night though. He's definitely no Bobby Knight.
Posted by ZackAttackTiger
Kansas City
Member since Dec 2014
381 posts
Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:27 pm to
He is not a good hire. Look at Kentucky. Look at Duke. Look at Kansas. They all have young players playing. We always use the excuse we are young. That is BS. A lot schools best players are freshmen. We need to stop using the youth excuse.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:36 pm to
It's not even the blue bloods, which it's probably unfair to compare us too. But to bring up a probably unfair comparison because they do get contributions from upper classmen too, but Wichita state plays like 5 or 6 freshmen.
Posted by ZackAttackTiger
Kansas City
Member since Dec 2014
381 posts
Posted on 1/31/15 at 5:38 pm to
Kim is no Coach K. Not even close.
Posted by MrPoppersPuffins
CoMo
Member since Sep 2013
164 posts
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:12 pm to
The problem isn't THAT they are young... It's that Haith relied on solid transfers to float the team from season to season to prevent drop off. When you do this, you have to let either start picking up good freshmen (which he didn't do), or consistently pull in big stud transfers (which he failed to do at the end, which is why he bailed).

Kim isn't coaching a young team, he's coaching an objectively young AND bad team, which he had no responsibility creating. Give the man time, this crap isn't his fault.
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