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re: Pete Carroll vs Nick Saban (college)
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:36 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:36 pm to lsupride87
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2 national titles compared to three
Did LSU fans already forget about Saban's title in 2003?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:40 pm to jchamil
quote:Did you not read the chart and see what we are comparing?
Did LSU fans already forget about Saban's title in 2003?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Neither invented their program... but Saban's work is more impressive considering the level competition.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:44 pm to r2d2
quote:Saban is 8-10 against top 10. Pete is 14-5 against top 10. It is clear Pete actually handles the tough competition better. Saban makes his money by pretty much never losing to the inferior team, where Pete will
but Saban's work is more impressive considering the level competition.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:46 pm to Henry Jones Jr
What do Saban's numbers look like if he took the USC job whenever Carroll got there?
What do Pete's look like if he took over UA in 07?
What do Pete's look like if he took over UA in 07?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:47 pm to Patton
quote:In my opinion barely anything changes. I think they are both cream of the crop in the college ranks. They excel at different things but the end result is the same
What do Saban's numbers look like if he took the USC job whenever Carroll got there?
What do Pete's look like if he took over UA in 07?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:47 pm to lsupride87
It is really a shame that USC didn't get an opportunity to play more SEC teams in bowls, or otherwise.
2003 USC shutout a Preseason #1 Auburn.
2006 USC clobbered 2006 SEC West Champion Arkansas.
Looking back, those 2003, 2007, and 2008 USC teams had just as much of a right to play for the National Championship as LSU ('03 & '07), Oklahoma ('03 & '08), and Florida ('08).
2003 USC shutout a Preseason #1 Auburn.
2006 USC clobbered 2006 SEC West Champion Arkansas.
Looking back, those 2003, 2007, and 2008 USC teams had just as much of a right to play for the National Championship as LSU ('03 & '07), Oklahoma ('03 & '08), and Florida ('08).
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:50 pm to Cornelius
quote:Exactly. That is why I hate the pure "titles" argument. Two teams could have the same record but one gets "voted in" It really is such shite how champions were/are decided
Looking back, those 2003, 2007, and 2008 USC teams had just as much of a right to play for the National Championship as LSU ('03 & '07), Oklahoma ('03 & '08), and Florida
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:52 pm to lsupride87
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Saban is 8-10 against top 10. Pete is 14-5 against top 10. It is clear Pete actually handles the tough competition better. Saban makes his money by pretty much never losing to the inferior team, where Pete will
Carroll bailed when things got tough.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:54 pm to Korin
quote:And then won a freaking Super Bowl Not really a ringing endorsement he is worse
Carroll bailed when things got tough.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:58 pm to lsupride87
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Exactly. That is why I hate the pure "titles" argument. Two teams could have the same record but one gets "voted in" It really is such shite how champions were/are decided
Yep. Its a shame that coaches and players have no control over making it to a national title in cfb. Cfb national title is the most subjective title in all of sports. After every single bcscg, analyst would debate over whether or not the two participants were correct.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:03 pm to lsupride87
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And then won a freaking Super Bowl Not really a ringing endorsement he is worse
Which has nothing to do with the thread.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:05 pm to Korin
quote:Well, are you assuming if he stayed at USC he was about to be 4-5 loss coach?
Which has nothing to do with the thread
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:08 pm to Korin
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Which has nothing to do with the thread.
Well, the thread is skewed towards Saban because Carroll can actually hack it in the pros.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:13 pm to Cornelius
On his second stint. 16-16 in his first 2 years, which was about the same as Saban's.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:16 pm to Korin
He was a playoff coach his first stint also.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:19 pm to Korin
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Carroll bailed when things got tough.
What did Saban do when he was a .500 coach in the NFL?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:20 pm to Cornelius
What did you have for breakfast today?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:26 pm to Korin
Nit picking a little but it looks like the OP has Saban's total showing the forfieted games but is not reflecting Carrol's forfeited games for 04 and 05 and the vacated title in 04.
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