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Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:53 pm to 318_Guy
Can Carroll actually recruit though? Shouldn't take much to tell a kid that he will be playing for the only pro football team in the country's second largest city and be surrounded by hot women. Not sure if he would be as good convincing kids to go to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:55 pm to 318_Guy
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Pete Carroll can actually win in the nfl
Saban is a sellout coach at a sellout bandwagon program
Sweet yall are the best at a sport that only 0.0003% of the world cares about.
Oh look, another little bitch.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Nick Harbaugh > Jim Carroll imo
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:57 pm to 318_Guy
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Saban is a sellout coach at a sellout bandwagon program
Sweet yall are the best at a sport that only 0.0003% of the world cares about.
sweet melt
Posted on 12/18/14 at 2:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You're comparing the Pac 10 to the current SEC for titles?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:02 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I'd take Carroll over Saban, too.
If Carroll ever came back to the college game, he could sell not only his prior NCAA success, but also his NFL success. He could tell recruits that he is uniquely able to develop them in the college game and also position them for success in the NFL because he's succeeded at both levels. No disrespect to Saban, but Carroll is probably the only Coach that could come back to the college game and make Saban an afterthought.
If Carroll ever came back to the college game, he could sell not only his prior NCAA success, but also his NFL success. He could tell recruits that he is uniquely able to develop them in the college game and also position them for success in the NFL because he's succeeded at both levels. No disrespect to Saban, but Carroll is probably the only Coach that could come back to the college game and make Saban an afterthought.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If you count the vacated wins from 2007, Nick Saban has 91 wins in 8 seasons.
Also...if you are going to throw in vacated wins for Saban, might as well throw in vacated wins for Carroll. Pete Carroll finished at USC with an "official" record of 83-19.
Also...if you are going to throw in vacated wins for Saban, might as well throw in vacated wins for Carroll. Pete Carroll finished at USC with an "official" record of 83-19.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Carroll also left USC high and dry right before the sanctions. Must've been a giant coincidence.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I had no idea Carroll's record was that good.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:13 pm to mauser
Those numbers aren't right though.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:15 pm to mauser
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I had no idea Carroll's record was that good.
The dude won 11 or more games every year from 2002-2008. No team got up for big games quite as well as USC did in that timespan. I'll never forget that 70-17 massacre they gave Arkansas in the second game of the '05 season.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:18 pm to RollTide1987
Easy to do in the Pac.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:19 pm to Korin
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Carroll also left USC high and dry right before the sanctions. Must've been a giant coincidence.
He said he would have stayed if he knew about the sanctions coming down
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:21 pm to Korin
quote:Are you not reading the chart? He is 14-5 against top 10 teams. He did unreal against good competition
Easy to do in the Pac.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:23 pm to RollTide1987
I watched USC trounce an Auburn team that thought they were going to be a contender. That was about 10 years ago. I didn't pay attention then, but that was a Pete Carroll team.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:25 pm to 318_Guy
Does Shreveport have a Sonic?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:27 pm to lsupride87
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Pete dominates Saban on top 10 wins. I guess he is a better coach when the playing field is even. Prolly why he is alot better in the NFL
Saban dominates Pete on not losing to inferior teams(unranked teams) Prolly why Saban is so successful in College
It might also have something to do with motivational approaches.
Saban's always been machine-like and de-emphasized the opponent in favor of the process. Doing so makes one less likely to frick up against an inferior foe, but also probably tends to drain some of the emotion, energy, and individual initiative needed to put you over the top against an equal or better one.
I don't know Carroll's personal leanings, but his USC staff was full of guys that are high energy, emotional types that have a rep for giving players more freedom (Kiffin, Sarkisian, Orgeron) - which may well translate in rising to a challenge but then also coasting at times.
Whatever the reason, it is a really interesting difference given both of their outstanding levels of success.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:29 pm to Korin
quote:Easier, anyway.
Easy to do in the Pac.
I have to listen to the PAC-whatever bullshite every year.
They're both great coaches and I can't stand either one of them. Carroll because he's a smug prick in victory and a whiny bitch in defeat. I can't stand Saban because, well, you know
I was surprised at the number of losses Saban has to top 10 teams, however.
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