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What if....we didn't lose RC and BSG?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:34 pm
Masterag inspired an idea of a thread for me: where would we be as an athletic department if certain people never left?
Like BSG? Would he still be here or in rehab? Would our tournament streak have ended?
Should we have fired RC when we did? I spent the 00's thinking his firing was a Solich-type mistake. But then I look at that thread with the recent shutouts for programs and you can clearly see his program fell off after 1998 and the arrival of Mack Brown.
What do you think?
Like BSG? Would he still be here or in rehab? Would our tournament streak have ended?
Should we have fired RC when we did? I spent the 00's thinking his firing was a Solich-type mistake. But then I look at that thread with the recent shutouts for programs and you can clearly see his program fell off after 1998 and the arrival of Mack Brown.
What do you think?
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 1:18 pm
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:38 pm to cardboardboxer
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What do you think?
I think playing this game will drive me to alcoholism
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:48 pm to Houston Summit
Fair enough. 
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:50 pm to cardboardboxer
What if we had hired urban Meyer instead of Fran?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:07 pm to WestCoastAg
Knowing our luck back then he would have had a mental meltdown after the second Mike Leach boatrace.
Fran looked can't-miss as well. Its hard to say who would be a fit.
Fran looked can't-miss as well. Its hard to say who would be a fit.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:08 pm to cardboardboxer
well yea, but this is the game were playing
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:17 pm to WestCoastAg
Lol, yeah maybe this is a little much. I will cut down the OP to the main what ifs- RC and BSG.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:24 pm to WestCoastAg
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What if we had hired urban Meyer instead of Fran?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:25 pm to cardboardboxer
The problem wasn't keeping RC too long. The problem was the Old Army mentality of "What you have was good enough for me so its good enough for you" and bean counter AD Wally Groff refusing to upgrade facilities that RC was pleading for until it was far too late.
As an example, Mack Brown got a really nice and spacious office that overlooked DKR. Meanwhile, RC was given a room attached to a parking garage that was so small there wasn't enough space to have enough chairs for a recruit and both of his parents to sit.
Hell, the West Side suites STILL have a fricking metal piss trough instead of urinals. One of the sit down toilets leaks enough water that there is constantly a puddle large enough that people flat out refuse to use it for fear of getting their pants soaked. It's been doing this since at least 2010. (although I think it was FINALLY fixed for this last game vs Mizzou)
As an example, Mack Brown got a really nice and spacious office that overlooked DKR. Meanwhile, RC was given a room attached to a parking garage that was so small there wasn't enough space to have enough chairs for a recruit and both of his parents to sit.
Hell, the West Side suites STILL have a fricking metal piss trough instead of urinals. One of the sit down toilets leaks enough water that there is constantly a puddle large enough that people flat out refuse to use it for fear of getting their pants soaked. It's been doing this since at least 2010. (although I think it was FINALLY fixed for this last game vs Mizzou)
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:36 pm to cardboardboxer
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BSG
Quién es ese?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:56 pm to Dr RC
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The problem wasn't keeping RC too long. The problem was the Old Army mentality of "What you have was good enough for me so its good enough for you" and bean counter AD Wally Groff refusing to upgrade facilities that RC was pleading for until it was far too late.
Yeah, I can see that. Heck I feel we had such a bad time in the 00's because of that same stubbornness- "recruits either take us as we are or they don't come." When you think like that, they don't come and you are screwed! One thing I will always give Sumlin credit for is fighting that old Army mentality and changing things like our game entrance. Drove me nuts that the Old Army guys would strut around like our program was this major program, but they weren't willing to make the sacrifices needed to actually be a major program and then have the audacity to wonder why the team sucks.
Still I look at that 1996 6-6 year, or his bowl record, or his shutouts late in his career and I get the feeling that maybe RC's success was less his doing and more the fact that during his time the other big programs in our area (LSU, Texas, etc.) sucked.
I mean, I really like RC as a person. He has opened my eyes about the 90's realignment. Just maybe me and others put too much stock on him being let go when he did being THE reason for our 00's problems.
Thank you for the insight.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:57 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
It is a great Sci Fi show.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:37 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Quién es ese?
Pues aquel pinche vato baloncetero que nos trajo vatos perrones como Acie Law y Antanas Kavaliauskas.
Sigh......en aquellos viejos tiempos
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:42 pm to greenbastard
Oh so we are talking about Billy Clyde Gillespie?
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:43 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:55 pm to greenbastard
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:58 pm to greenbastard
This needs to happen on the rant
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:59 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Both coaches had issues with the A.D.
Gillispie had issues with Byrne being a complete arse and Slocum had issues with Groff being a tight-arse when it came to facilities and funding.
Gillispie had issues with Byrne being a complete arse and Slocum had issues with Groff being a tight-arse when it came to facilities and funding.
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:06 pm to cardboardboxer
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I mean, I really like RC as a person. He has opened my eyes about the 90's realignment. Just maybe me and others put too much stock on him being let go when he did being THE reason for our 00's problems.
Back in 2002 on Texags, I predicted the 2003 season results exactly BEFORE Slocum was fired. I basically said that because of the downward momentum (this was after the Missouri loss) our program was on that the following season would be 4-8 and if Slocum wasn't fired that year, he wouldn't survive 2003.
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