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Is Texas A&M going to be Exhibit A for the Ewing Theory this season?

Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:33 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:33 am
For those of you that don't read Bill Simmons, here is the Ewing Theory.

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A theory hashed by ESPN.com writer Bill Simmons and his friend Dave Cirilli. It that explains the reason why teams inexplicably become better after their star player leaves the team for any reason (trade, injury, etc.). Two elements must be present for a situation to be explained by the Ewing Theory: 1) The team has a star player who receives a lot of attention but never wins anything, and 2) The star player leaves the team and everybody writes the team off.


Example: The Knicks lose Patrick Ewing to an injury in a 1999 NBA playoff series with the Indiana Pacers. Everyone writes them off. The Knicks then win three of the next four games and win the series to advance to the NBA finals.



Will the loss of Johnny Manziel actually make A&M better?
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 9:36 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:35 am to
Yes
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:36 am to
Nah, they won't get better than 4th in the west this year

They are building though
Posted by OBReb6
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:37 am to
Nope.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50425 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:38 am to
Better? Maybe.

Our defense will be.

Our offense will not be, but it will still be better than everyone elses int he SEC.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Our offense will not be, but it will still be better than everyone elses int he SEC.


The premise of the Ewing Theory is that by losing a star player, it allows other players who were overshadowed for whatever reason to shine, therefore improving team chemistry.


I could see this happening with A&M this year. I could see them at 2nd or 3rd in the West.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:44 am to
Meh. Yes and no. Cleveland lost LeBron and they have the least wins over the last 4 years of any NBA team.

We will be third in the West this year so not much better. 2015 we win the SEC though.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Will the loss of Johnny Manziel actually make A&M better?


possible. Sumlin has not gotten to run his offense yet bec of JFF. He finally gets to bust out his 65-35 pass offense and see what it can do in the SEC.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16923 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:49 am to
I don't think so. They lost more than just Johnny, they also lost two other guys on offense that were drafted ahead of him. Not to mention what will still be a weak defense.

They are undoubtedly moving in an upwardly direction for the future though, and Johnny surely helped the program long term.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:57 am to
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I don't think so. They lost more than just Johnny, they also lost two other guys on offense that were drafted ahead of him. Not to mention what will still be a weak defense.


While what we lost is absolutely true. The impact of that loss is what is replacing them. For example, lets say you had a team that had Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. If one goes down to injury, its not that big of a deal.

QB, WR, and OL are the most talented positions on our roster so those losses wont be felt as much as people think. I know JFF's amazing plays are always on the forefront but its not like every single play he made was impossible. He throws bubble screens and other simple throws that a lot of QBs can make.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:05 am to
In all honesty, I'm not that familiar with A&m's roster. But if the theory requires the team to improve the following year after those losses, then I just don't see players stepping in and being better than those first rounders they lost.

We'll find out soon enough. I will say I was pissed to see Speedy go to a&m and that Texas receiver y'all just got in this upcoming class (name eludes me ATM). Receiving corps looks to be pretty scary for the next few years.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:15 am to
quote:

In all honesty, I'm not that familiar with A&m's roster.

Appreciate your honesty.
Thats a rare trait on this board.
Many people aren't familiar with our roster.
All they know: "Manziel to Cleveland; other players drafted."
And since most of those same folks don't follow recruiting, in their uninformed minds, the situation equates to A&M never winning another game.
And that's their collective cue to .

While Manziel will be much missed, I think most Ags are very eager to see how this year's [more balanced] offense will look.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140552 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:16 am to
Until TAMU starts beating Arky consistently, I don't think we can consider them a serious contender for being improved.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:19 am to
Problem is they lost two other star players as well.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Until TAMU starts beating Arky consistently, I don't think we can consider them a serious contender for being improved.


Like beating them every year they've been in the SEC? That kind of consistency?
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Problem is they lost two other star players as well.


Problem is one of those star players was a WR, far and away the easiest player to replace on a team. OL will be our best unit on the entire team.

LT - 4th year starter - RS-SR (projected top 10 pick)
LG - 4th year starter - RS-SR (projected 1st round pick)
C - 2nd year starter - JR
RG - Never started but been 2nd string - RS-SR
RT - 2nd year starter - RS-SO
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Problem is they lost two other star players as well.

This will likely be the norm for us for the foreseeable future.
That's not intended to be pompous, it's just reality.
As long as Sumlin continues to replace those guys with stellar players (on paper, many of his recruits are better), we'll roll with it.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:24 am to
Right but I'm saying they lost more than just Manziel. Not a shot at A&M, just a comment that the Ewing theory doesn't really apply here since they are replacing two other star players as well.
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Like beating them every year they've been in the SEC? That kind of consistency?


2-3 in the last 5 seasons
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59672 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:26 am to
until they field a D they won't win shite
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