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HUNH coaches blast NCAA proposal.

Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted by LSU1NSEC
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:48 pm to
oh man what a shock
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:49 pm to
No fricking way. I thought they would approve of a proposal that limits their current game plan.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:49 pm to
Here's a link to why the saftey thing is BS

LINK
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:51 pm to
Damn I actually like Hugh Freeze now.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:27 pm to
When asked his thoughts on the proposed rule change, Coach Will Muschamp said he thought having an offensive strategy at all was an unfair advantage against defenses but added that he didn't get why other coaches were so upset about any particular offensive style. "Offenses? I've had my guys run several of them. Had all kinds of different offensive wizards come in trying to work their magic for the team and I gotta tell ya I just don't see any differences. As far as I'm concerned even having an offense is a gimmick but the rules say you gotta do something when the ball's in your possession."
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:37 pm to
Are they actually trying to argue that fatigue doesn't lead to an increased risk of injury? Because it definitely does, its a pretty basic concept that anyone who has ever exercised is aware of. Coaches arguing that there is no "data" to support it just come off as ignorant.

Now saying that it isn't the driving factor is something different, because in all likelihood safety isn't whats pushing this.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:43 pm to
Auburn averaged 2 plays more a quarter than Arky and Bama...2 plays. Shut the frick up already.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:45 pm to
If it doesn't make a difference, then why are you bitching about it dumb arse?
Posted by finestfirst79
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Are they actually trying to argue that fatigue doesn't lead to an increased risk of injury? Because it definitely does...


Get in shape or don't play football? What's wrong with that?
Posted by AUCatfish
How are yah now?
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:45 pm to
"Player safety" is a smokescreen and I wish someone would just admit it.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

Added Leach: “That’s really insulting that they are hiding behind player safety just because somebody wants an advantage. That’s crazy.”
Preach it mike
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

"Player safety" is a smokescreen and I wish someone would just admit it.


I think we all agree on this. I was just saying that coaches claiming fatigue doesn't lead to injury is ignorant. I don't care whether HUNH is allowed or not TBH.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:49 pm to
all the article comments i been reading today - everyone pissed off at Saban.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:50 pm to
Washington State coach Mike Leach said. “Second, it’s ridiculous. All this tinkering is ridiculous. I think it deteriorates the game. It’s always been a game of creativity and strategy. So anytime someone doesn’t want to go back to the drawing board or re-work their solutions to problems, then what they do is to beg for a rule. I think it’s disgusting.”
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:52 pm to
I just wish they would let the Ref set the ball like the old days. Start enforcing illegal motion and failure to be set for a second pre-snap, and to reform pass block rules to make passing a bit harder.

Also, injuries that require an official timeout should keep the player out until the next possession change. Call it the LSU rule.

Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:52 pm to
Frick 'em. They will just have to learn how to man up and play real American football.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14226 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:53 pm to
It's pretty arrogant for guys like Gundy to claim college football is wildly popular because of uptempo systems.

TV and media is the reason, not offense or defense.

Half these guys would never be making millions if not for gimmick and gadget systems and taking advantage of a game skewed for the offense.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:54 pm to
Stoops pretty much called it like it is at SEC Media Days when asked. Especially as a defensive minded coach with a HUNH coordinator.

quote:

Q. I'm wondering with your defensive background, what is your take on the discussion about whether defenses should get mandatory time after first downs, specifically when they're against hurry-ups, up-tempo offenses, to substitute guys in?

COACH STOOPS: It's very interesting for me. I come from a defensive background. Again I've had my problems with up-tempo offenses, we all have had our moments of failure against the tempo offenses because it gets you in disarray.
Obviously that's the advantage of it for the offenses, to not let us defenses zero in as specifically as we want to be as far as formations and all those sort of things, get on the same page in the communication.
Now I will be running an up-tempo offense at Kentucky with Neal Brown. I like it from that standpoint. I see them going through it. Of course, we have a long way to go. I've watched Neal's offenses at Texas Tech, I see the way they moved the ball against some quality teams. I hope we can have the same success.
Right now what I say is the rules are the way they are. I'm a first-year head coach with very little clout in this league. I'm going to go about the way the rules are right now.
In my opinion, I do think there needs to be, and I believe we're working towards that, some time to let us get situated and put the ball down certainly when substitutions involved.


He also called bullshite on this hiding behind injury business too.

quote:

Q. As a defensive coach, have you ever seen any proof or evidence that a hurry-up offense does, in fact, injure football players more often, as some coaches here have alleged in the past? Also, talk about your decision to apply an up-tempo offense when you decided to install your staff coming to the SEC?

COACH STOOPS: I personally have not seen that. Of course, I'm not going out there trying to collect that data. So it hasn't affected us from an injury point of view yet to this point.
I thought it gave us the best opportunity to win at Kentucky. I like the style of play. I like the roots of it, coming back to Kentucky, when Hal Mumme was there, had some success, with Neal having a background in Kentucky. I just thought it gave us the best opportunity to move the football.


Whether he's just at Kentucky and nobody GAF or not, he at least had the balls to say he wanted the substitution from a strategic standpoint.

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This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17337 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:54 pm to
This is going to get vicious. The way that the cowards tried to push this through in the back rooms has pissed a LOT of people off. Sumlin called out Bielema by name on SVP on espn radio earlier today.
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