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re: Article in CL about changes coming to the School concerning Racism
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:32 am to Tornado Alley
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:32 am to Tornado Alley
Yes. Born and raised in Oxford.
Yes. I'm excluded from the "mistakes" Mississippians made against people that look like me.That's kinda obvious. You act like I'm calling you a white devil. Relax.
Why would you ever take responsibility for what a black man did? Doesn't make sense to me.
That's your opinion. In my opinion, your logic is terrible.
Yes. I'm excluded from the "mistakes" Mississippians made against people that look like me.That's kinda obvious. You act like I'm calling you a white devil. Relax.
Why would you ever take responsibility for what a black man did? Doesn't make sense to me.
That's your opinion. In my opinion, your logic is terrible.
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:33 am to Tornado Alley
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As a law student, I know that there are much stronger factors besides "offense" behind the opposition.
Such as???
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:34 am to Tornado Alley
So you just asked Jews to forget the Holocaust...
Good Night
Good Night
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:35 am to Doresrules
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Such as???
Brah, money talks.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:35 am to Doresrules
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So you just asked Jews to forget the Holocaust...
Please, strawman.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:39 am to Lord of The Vaught
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I'm excluded from the "mistakes" Mississippians made against people that look like me
That's some bullshite entitlement complex on par with feminism.
Equality is not the desired outcome of these movements anymore.
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Why would you ever take responsibility for what a black man did?
We'll play this game too.
I take no responsibility for any crime or unethical behavior committed by a white person, specifically a Mississippian or Mississippi resident, since our State's founding.
There. I've voided myself of all responsibility.
Why are we being punished for things that we didn't do?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:39 am to Doresrules
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Doresrules
fricking POS
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:49 am to Tornado Alley
I'm aware that I'm not entitled to anything. Never said I was. If it isn't equality then what is it?
Nobody is asking for you to take responsibility for something you didn't do. All the letter said was help the University be better in the eyes of everyone else.
I'm sure you get tired of defending the University when people talk about it as being racist. Why not get rid of some of the very things that causes that to happen? Is it really that hard? Will it hurt you that much? Help me to understand.
I don't think you can call getting rid of a song or a name for the academic side of the University punishment. Much worse things could hypothetically be done.
But that's just what I got out of it.
Nobody is asking for you to take responsibility for something you didn't do. All the letter said was help the University be better in the eyes of everyone else.
I'm sure you get tired of defending the University when people talk about it as being racist. Why not get rid of some of the very things that causes that to happen? Is it really that hard? Will it hurt you that much? Help me to understand.
I don't think you can call getting rid of a song or a name for the academic side of the University punishment. Much worse things could hypothetically be done.
But that's just what I got out of it.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:49 am to GatorReb
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show me where removing these things and winning are correlated and i will GLADLY give them up.
Several links have been given of situations where guys have stated racism was being used as a negative against Ole Miss recruiting. Losing Carl Lawson last year because of it was not the only factor but was a factor.
Kendarius Webster- "A lot of coaches were saying ‘Ole Miss is this, and Ole Miss is that," he told Carvell. "...That they're racist and why would you ever want to go there. It was just crazy things like that."
Losing out on top players because of this DIRECTLY correlates with winning. I'm not sure how or why you can't see that.
Beverley Nkemdiche-"I heard all of that," she said. "I know they haven't won an SEC championship since 1963. People told me all of that. They told me Ole Miss was a racist place and they hated black people. It's not a black and white issue for me. My son was there for a whole year and he didn't die. They didn't kill him."
I personally spoke with Ty Barrett mom. I work with her. We sat down and had a conversation about Ole Miss before he came to visit. The first thing she told me was some of the coaches she had spoken with were talking about how racist of a place it is. Barrett did not come to Ole Miss to play. It wasnt because of race issues but it goes to show its being used. Now if I could have had a conversation and said the school just got rid of this this and that, do you not think she might not see the change that has and is continuing to happen?
No one is saying that there may EVER come a point where someone might not use the past against us. The thing is we can can't control that. We can however control what direction we move in. How we work to be portrayed. I can tell you this, going to a Ole Miss game now is much better than it was 20 years ago with confederate flags flying over my head. That change didnt occur by ignoring that it needed to go.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 1:51 am to Tornado Alley
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fricking POS
I'm not even sure you are aware what the Doresrules stands for...
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:04 am to Doresrules
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Several links have been given of situations where guys have stated racism was being used as a negative against Ole Miss recruiting. Losing Carl Lawson last year because of it was not the only factor but was a factor.
and as I have said before IMO players use that as an EXCUSE/Scapegoat and none of those single handily make a difference. Cause if it was THAT big of a deal then we wouldnt have any black students/athletes. But we do so how do all the ones we do have feel about it? I know first hand how many felt during the mascot situation. Multiple black athletes in my class discussed it with me and a couple even asked me "So wait, why exactly are we voting for a new mascot?"
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Losing out on top players because of this DIRECTLY correlates with winning
please show me where we lost top players DIRECTLY because of it, cauase last i checked we are currently recruiting at a VERy high level these past few years.
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The thing is we can can't control that. We can however control what direction we move in
what by removing a SONG? And a nickname "Ole Miss"
yeah okPosted on 8/2/14 at 2:21 am to GatorReb
Well the best part is it doesn't matter that you don't agree with it. The University of Mississippi is moving forward whether you like it or not. Join the ride or GTFO.
Nothing wrong with disagreeing. It doesn't change what's happening though.
Nothing wrong with disagreeing. It doesn't change what's happening though.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:26 am to Doresrules
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Join the ride or GTFO
Or I can still pull for Ole Miss but ALWAYS wear my Col Reb polo and ALWAYS call us the Rebels and ALWAYS call us Ole Miss.
And you can pull for the Mississippi Black Bears.
you do your thing and ill do mine
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:29 am to GatorReb
Y'all should go to bed
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:29 am to GatorReb
I feel like why even leave it up to chance that it MIGHT directly cause us to lose out on a big time recruit. Why wait till it happens to do something about it? Might as well be proactive.
You may call it an excuse but why would someone come somewhere they feel unwelcome. Like I said, it may not have single handily made a difference yet but there's no need to leave it up to chance IMO.
And I know it doesn't bother most of the black athletes on campus because it doesn't bother me but I'm sure there are people who it does bother.
You may call it an excuse but why would someone come somewhere they feel unwelcome. Like I said, it may not have single handily made a difference yet but there's no need to leave it up to chance IMO.
And I know it doesn't bother most of the black athletes on campus because it doesn't bother me but I'm sure there are people who it does bother.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:30 am to OBReb6
This is too much fun.
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Y'all should go to bed
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:31 am to Lord of The Vaught
I don't believe we've met. What's up?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:33 am to OBReb6
I'm the new guy around here.
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I don't believe we've met. What's up?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:35 am to Lord of The Vaught
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but I'm sure there are people who it does bother.
There is ALWAYS going to be something that bothers someone.
You cant do things that make everyone happy its impossible.
No matter what you do you will ALWAYS bother someone
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:37 am to GatorReb
True enough but I feel like it's a little different when it comes to race.
BTW I appreciate you actually being able to talk it out without the name calling like the Tornado dude.
BTW I appreciate you actually being able to talk it out without the name calling like the Tornado dude.
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