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re: Why should everyone be allowed to vote?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:58 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 5/8/15 at 12:58 pm to MrLarson
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I was just giving the good ole smart arse answer. I have to use the metric system every day.
I prefer metric units to imperial units. So does everyone I know who actually has to perform calculations like these. The only people I've ever met who don't prefer the metric system are ideologues who never actually have to use this stuff. Basically, they're idiots.
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:03 pm to Papplesbeast
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You make an offer and the seller responds by asking your political affiliation.
The one thing I've learned as I've grown older is, you don't have to answer every question asked of you.
My reply would simply be, do you want to sell your house or not?
HUD might also get involved and add some language to the Fair Housing Act.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:17 pm to Papplesbeast
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Papplesbeast
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To vote you should have to meet the following:
1. Be at least a high school graduate and over age 18.
2. Either be employed (taxpayer) or a land owner or if over age 65 you were employed at least 20 years.
3. Photo ID should be required.
4. Convicted felons should not be allowed to vote.
Being convicted of attempting to circumvent these rules should land you in prison for 20 years-no parole. Voting is the most important thing we as Americans have.
What I find ironic about proposals like this is that the US already has pretty low voter participation. The people you want to exclude are also already the least likely to vote. Basically, your proposal is pretty much pointless and would only serve to increase the size of government (which would have to police this). But you're all for "small government", right?
Not really smaller government, but when people who do not put anything into the system can vote themselves more and more, I find that disturbing.
I also believe in helping my fellow man, but that help should not be a way of life. I think a total of 5 years of government assistance over an entire lifetime is more than sufficient. I do not include Social Security in this because it is something that you worked and paid into. I can envision a time where someone graduates high school but is unable to find work and they are not interested in college. I am ok with helping them for a while until they can find a job. Then after working for 10 or so years they get laid off, I am ok with helping them again, until they can find another job.
There are people who are 40-50 years old and have NEVER had a job. That is ridiculous. It is because they are lazy. I could leave home tomorrow morning and find a job within 1 week and only admit to having a high school education. I have a college degree, but I am saying you don't need one to get a job. It might be an entry level job, but it is a job and I can work hard and get advancement. I went to high school with someone who started working at a local grocery store chain at 18. He showed up for work dressed properly, on time, and did his job. He started as a bag boy, then a stocker, then working in the meat department and now is the daytime store manager.
This is America and anyone can succeed they just need to work hard and keep trying. Everyone falls down, but you have to get back up and get back to it.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:26 pm to Papplesbeast
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I prefer metric units to imperial units. So does everyone I know who actually has to perform calculations like these. The only people I've ever met who don't prefer the metric system are ideologues who never actually have to use this stuff. Basically, they're idiots.
Metric system should be base 12. Base 10 isn't useful.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:54 pm to alphaandomega
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Not really smaller government, but when people who do not put anything into the system can vote themselves more and more, I find that disturbing.
Thinking that people that are on government assistance control what the government does is upside down. I would worry more about the multi-national corporations dumping billions of dollars into campaign funds. Which do you think congress will be more responsive to? The welfare queen is the conservative boogie man.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 1:59 pm to TeLeFaWx
Nah we don't need the metric system everybody just needs to use the US Survey Foot as the standard.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:16 pm to MSUbulldogs03
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Being able to vote should be a privilege and not a right.
No where in the constitution does it say that voting is a right.
Before anyone claims otherwise, you should look at the actual text. You cannot be excluded from voting because of race/gender, etc. But no where does it explicitly say "you have the right to vote". This is different. As long as voting is not extended to everyone, it doesn't have to be extended to anyone.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:29 pm to MrLarson
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The one thing I've learned as I've grown older is, you don't have to answer every question asked of you.
My reply would simply be, do you want to sell your house or not?
HUD might also get involved and add some language to the Fair Housing Act.
In a world where only property owners can vote, I imagine HUD would be neutered, assuming it still existed at all. The seller could refuse to sell if the buyer refuses to answer.
I'm just pointing out ways this could be a bad idea. Another thing to consider, the amount of land is effectively constant while population is increasing.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:34 pm to MSUbulldogs03
Who honestly can't read and write in today's society? No matter how poor the school system is, everyone has at least a 5th grade education.
This post was edited on 5/10/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:39 pm to alphaandomega
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Not really smaller government, but when people who do not put anything into the system can vote themselves more and more, I find that disturbing.
That basically never happens. The people who get rich off of government are the people who are already rich. They're the ones who have quid pro quo relationships with legislators, campaign contributions for favorable legislation.
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There are people who are 40-50 years old and have NEVER had a job. That is ridiculous. It is because they are lazy.
Especially those lazy stay-at-home mothers! How many 40-50 year old people who have never had a job are out there? I'm curious.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:39 pm to alphaandomega
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4. Convicted felons should not be allowed to vote.
Any? Why?
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Voting is the most important thing we as Americans have.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:55 pm to Carolina Tide
quote:Floyd Mayweather.
Who honestly can't read and write in today society
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:33 am to MSUbulldogs03
Welfare recipients shouldn't be allowed to vote. They work for us and we the taxpayers are their employers, and they provide no service to show for it. I'd go a step further and strip all their rights but free speech and right to a fair trial. We should tell them where to eat, what they can ingest, not allow them any type of luxery, and if they have a kid on the taxpayers dime, then they'd be sterilized.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:38 am to Stonehog
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Kind of like Jim Crow laws?
Who said anything about blacks or Jim Crow laws? If you say blacks and Jim Crow, I'm not the one being racist, you are. The fact that I think you should have an ID and be able to read as a requirement to vote has nothing to do with race. If you think it does, then you are a racist who thinks blacks are naturally inferior and shouldn't be held up to the same standards as the rest of society
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:44 am to OMLandshark
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then they'd be sterilized.
To bad your mother wasn't sterilized.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:50 am to BluegrassBelle
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And you're eliminating a large number of people who simply rent condos/apartments to avoid the hassle of upkeep on a house/home.
Yeah, property owning as being the primary means of voter eligibility is nothing short of retarded. So Jon who rents a high rise in Manhattan for $3000 a month and make 500K a year shouldn't be allowed to vote, but Cletus who has an acre with a trailer on it in the middle of Bumfrick West Virginia, has a 5th grade education, and lives off of government cheese on the other hand can vote. That's just stupid in today's age.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 8:57 am to Carolina Tide
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Who honestly can't read and write in today society? No matter how poor the school system is, everyone has at least a 5th grad education.
I've met one person. Dumbest guy I ever met. He could read a few words, but had us read crap to him from the Internet. One time at work the whole system went on lockdown because someone looked up sex.com. They questioned all the employees, but they all knew who was dumb enough to type in sex.com, and just had to follow protocol even when he denied it.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 9:07 am to Person of interest
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To bad your mother wasn't sterilized.
Fortunately for me, my mother and father planned for me years in advance, saved up money, and didn't ask the fine taxpayers of Mississippi to foot the bill. In the past, if you had kids you couldn't afford, at least one of you would have to starve. You didn't get another 15k from the government to raise your stupid kid who should have never been conceived in the first place. You want to be irresponsible on society's expense, you pay the price, and in my world the price would be sterilization.
You want to stop crime and people being killed in the street, you go after the problem. What's the problem? Is it kids from loving middle class families? By and large, no. It's unwanted kids that people can't afford going around doing 99% of the crimes. It's time to stop putting up with this bullshite and make them accountable for spitting out unwanted kids, who in turn will go on and spit out more unwanted kids after daddy goes to jail, until we've become the society of Idiocracy.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 10:38 am to OMLandshark
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Welfare recipients shouldn't be allowed to vote. They work for us and we the taxpayers are their employers, and they provide no service to show for it. I'd go a step further and strip all their rights but free speech and right to a fair trial. We should tell them where to eat, what they can ingest, not allow them any type of luxery, and if they have a kid on the taxpayers dime, then they'd be sterilized.
What about people who don't know how to spell "luxury"?
Does your definition of "welfare" include SNAP?
Posted on 5/9/15 at 11:00 am to MSUbulldogs03
quote:Because if you don't believe you have a say-so in it, you won't continue to play the game.
Why should everyone be allowed to vote?
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