re: Where are you a hypocrite on your beliefs?

Rebelgator drinks alcohol.

Says "doing drugs is wrong" in a thread about having hypocritical beliefs.

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They probably should be.

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I'll nominate Rebelgator for living in the US and believing this in response to the OP

I'm a conservative Christian, but I don't believe in crusading against homosexuality/gay unions (pauses for aggy joke ), nor am I of the persuasion that the majority of people on welfare are on it out of some nefarious desire to game the system.

I can respect a straight up hooker but can't respect a gold digger. Really the same thing but somehow I see the gold digger as sub human and the hooker as a gal just trying to make a buck. I don't know how hypocritical that is but it's all I got.

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We are just too over populated and are ruining this earth for every other species.

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Oh boy

I'm a libertarian leaning person but really like the idea of public land as in National Parks.

I feel a system of trusts would benefit the people better than the way the Feds run their public land programs though.

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i don't believe that it's nefarious, but i do think somewhere upwards of 30% take the money with no desire to better themselves or their family's longterm needs.

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I believe there's a bit of a catch-22. Even if you truly desire to better one's position, sometimes the system punishes you for leaving welfare behind if you don't play your cards just right.

It's a vicious cycle that's damn hard to break if you don't have outside help, even if you have intrinsic motivation in spades.

That said, there are absolutely those who abuse the system to support their laziness, as well. I just think it's something that is hard to evaluate without knowing all the tangential issues going on with each individual case, but folks on both sides of the debate fall into the trap of making blanket statements far too easily, imho.

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but i give to the poor (food more often than not) when i have cash on hand. so that's a little hypocritical of me.

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No, that's actually the Christian thing to do.

Hypocritical is relying on the state to do what is the responsibility of the church.

My religion is Catholicism, a flawed church of flawed men. I apologize for the long post to follow.

When it comes to governance, much like God, I believe that all men are entitled to free will, to choose moral and immoral actions. Where the right to decide for one's self ends is when that decision affects the private property rights of others (i.e. theft, murder, public health, fraud, ect).

As long as one does no harm unto others, personal decisions are at their own discresion. However social pressure, extra judicial, is another concern. Government's role is to treat everyone equal while protecting private property rights and handling torts in the courts. Right of association, whom one chooses to do business (or not do business) with is entirely up to the owner and consumer.

In this scenario, racial or ethnic discrimination (or really any form of discrimination) is legal, but makes for poor business as the local community would not likely tolerate such action causing boycotts, trouble finding employees willing to work for said business, and vendors no longer wishing to be associated with said business. The market and the court of public opinion decide issues of morality where no rights have been violated.

When it comes to regulating and executing the powers of government, separation of powers both between branches and levels is also important, just like the separation of responsibilities within the Holy Trinity. The Father is the Federal Government, the watch maker. They enshrine the Constitution and set the global rules that act as a frame work and a last line for conflict resolution. Jesus is the state government. They interpret the framework of the Father and show us how we should live in those rules, tailoring government to the needs of the people in that state. The Holy Spirit is local government, intervening in the personal lives of people to lift them up, council them, and keep them safe at the individual level.

In many ways, the Trinity can be used to explain the 3 branches as well. The Father makes the laws (Legislative Branch), The Holy Spirit executes them (Executive Branch), and Jesus interprets them (Judicial Branch).

Just some interesting philosophy to chew on.

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No, that's actually the Christian thing to do.

Hypocritical is relying on the state to do what is the responsibility of the church.

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yeah. but i'm really cynical about it when i give to them.