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Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:25 pm to the808bass
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:25 pm to the808bass
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Despite the fact that Tea Partiers are better educated, on average, than the general public
You're an expert at conflating opinion with fact.
You do realize "I believe this is true" does not equate to "this is 100% verifiable fact" right?
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:25 pm to 3nOut
Unfortunately the best leaders usually have some skeleton's in the closet.
I think it has to do with nobody being perfect as well as certain personality traits which make people a better leader yet likely aren't exactly considered positives or don't make said person seem friendly/caring.
I think it has to do with nobody being perfect as well as certain personality traits which make people a better leader yet likely aren't exactly considered positives or don't make said person seem friendly/caring.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:26 pm to 3nOut
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she's a little cray cray on the religious side
That was kinda my point.
Where did I say she was a bad person?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:26 pm to Feral
quote:Unless you are in the tea party
You do realize "I believe this is true" does not equate to "this is 100% verifiable fact" right?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:26 pm to MIZ_COU
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Indeed. That would be on most group's lists. The differences wouldn't come until you asked them what specific wasteful spending. So that poll you sited contained little valuable info
Except that it seems to contradict the idea that the Tea Partiers are primarily or even secondarily concerned with "social" issues.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:27 pm to Feral
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If someone tells me they identify with the Tea Party, I usually make an immediate judgement about that person's education and/or intelligence level and make an excuse to walk away or change the subject.
Be careful with that. I know some very smart people who are emotionally swept up into the political game. Just because they are irrational at times about politics doesn't mean they aren't intelligent. I used to judge people for things like that all the time or at least the way they presented themselves. Then I worked this job for this crazy redneck boss for a year. He was a bright guy and my uptight suburban self became his right hand man. Taught me to actually get to know people before I pass such sweeping judgements of their intelligence.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:27 pm to the808bass
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I actually assumed you read gawker and Hufffpo. Because you said you did.
No, you assumed my political positon(s) were of a liberal jib and didn't include wasteful government spending and further assumed that reading Gawker and Huff Post validated your generalization.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:27 pm to MIZ_COU
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Indeed. That would be on most group's lists. The differences wouldn't come until you asked them what specific wasteful spending. So that poll you sited contained little valuable info
I didn't cite it, 808 did.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Posted by Cray cray fostering children doesn't make me any comfortable
Christians make up over 50% of foster and adoption caregivers. So that means your probably not comfortable with over half of the people adopting
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:29 pm to Feral
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You're an expert at conflating opinion with fact.
I apologize for the wording.
Would "surveys have indicated" been more acceptable to you?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:29 pm to Feral
quote:That's why my reply was to 808
I didn't cite it, 808 did.
ETA Oh wait it wasn't. It was meant to be. My bad. Damn stupid moderate
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:30 pm to Feral
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No, you assumed my political positon(s) were of a liberal jib and didn't include wasteful government spending and further assumed that reading Gawker and Huff Post validated your generalization.
No. I didn't.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:31 pm to 3nOut
I'd say there is a large percentage in it for the money as well. So yes, I am still uncomfortable.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:31 pm to MIZ_COU
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That's why my reply was to 808
My bad, your post was a reply to my post so I assumed it was a reply to my opinion on the generalized views of that poll.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:35 pm to UMTigerRebel
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Where did I say she was a bad person?
You personified her as your representation of the Tea Party and she's a pretty good person who backs up her rhetoric with action.
Just saying there are better people to have used as an example when drawing a negative connotation with a group.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:37 pm to 3nOut
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Christians make up over 50% of foster and adoption caregivers. So that means your probably not comfortable with over half of the people adopting
I don't have a problem with Christians fostering at all. That's a silly assumption.
Of course I wouldn't exactly call Michelle Bachmann Christian. More like mentally unstable using religion to justify her instability.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
That opinion of her seems slightly slanted to the left like it came from Rachel Maddow.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:40 pm to DynastyDawg
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I'd say there is a large percentage in it for the money as well. So yes, I am still uncomfortable.
Is there big money in Fostering children?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:42 pm to Vols&Shaft83
There is actually. If you want it to be profitable you can get tax breaks for doing it as well as a stipend.
If the fosters figure out how to spend less on the kids than they get in tax and government monies it can be worth it. I had a friend in CPS who had to do some investigating on it.
If the fosters figure out how to spend less on the kids than they get in tax and government monies it can be worth it. I had a friend in CPS who had to do some investigating on it.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:42 pm to 3nOut
But she's a personification of "the Tea Party," so she's dumb and crazy and likely a bitch.
If we're going to tilt at each other based upon the personalities of our "teams," then the Beltway has won.
A lot of reasonable people understand the ACA is a horrible failure, that labor force participation rates are abysmal, that government spending is too high and that our "representatives" in Washington are doing anything but representing.
But instead of joining together in common interest to fix things, we assume ignorance and naïveté on all our opponents and cheer on "our" congressperson as they take a view diametrically opposed to the view they had when the opposition was in control (when we also cheered them on).
We deserve everything we get. And we're going to get a lot.
If we're going to tilt at each other based upon the personalities of our "teams," then the Beltway has won.
A lot of reasonable people understand the ACA is a horrible failure, that labor force participation rates are abysmal, that government spending is too high and that our "representatives" in Washington are doing anything but representing.
But instead of joining together in common interest to fix things, we assume ignorance and naïveté on all our opponents and cheer on "our" congressperson as they take a view diametrically opposed to the view they had when the opposition was in control (when we also cheered them on).
We deserve everything we get. And we're going to get a lot.
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