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re: What's the biggest myth, you were taught in school as being fact?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:33 pm to Duke
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:33 pm to Duke
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They are one of the irrational crazies of the political persuasion
Some are. As some have said, they're the Moveon, of the other side. Having said that, I saw a poll once, where MSNBC or some other out there media tried to show they were uneducated idiots compared to a left wing group, and it backfired, showing there were more college grads in their movement, than the one they were hoping there would be.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:35 pm to The Spleen
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That is why people associate some of the wingnuts in politics with the Tea Party, whether that's fair or unfair.
I think it's more, because they take their news and truth from the likes of Jon Stewart and Bill Maher, and remain low information stalwarts, rather than seek the actual truth behind peoples statements and claims.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:35 pm to Alahunter
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I did no such thing. I asked why one person associated religious zeal with the Tea Party. Because of media, or personal observation.
My apologies then. I misinterpreted your posts.
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I see you fail to acknowledge that you were off the reservation with your assumption. There's no logical reason to believe she founded it, when it was already in full swing before she ever gave a speech to them. Your assumptions, don't make truth. They just showed your blind ignorance on the statement made. Arguing further to justify it, well..
Go back and read my original response and what I quoted. Bachmann was the founder of Congressional Tea Party Caucus. I didn't say she was the founder of the Tea Party movement.
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:38 pm to The Spleen
Interchanging the Congressional Caucus, with the Movement makes it confusing then. Comments are being made towards those in the movement, and not the Cong. Caucus.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:41 pm to The Spleen
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The Tea Party movement started with altruistic ideals, but along the way got hijacked by evangelicals and corporatists(yes, the Koch brothers) That is why people associate some of the wingnuts in politics with the Tea Party, whether that's fair or unfair.
I think that's what Democrats want you to think about the Tea Party and they're doing a good job of transmitting the message. Survey after survey just doesn't line up with that perception.
Salon on Tea Party versus Religious Right
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:42 pm to the808bass
If we had only listened to G.W. all this he said she said bullshift wouldn't matter so much.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:43 pm to MIZ_COU
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Ok back to myths
This one might blow some minds...
There weren't actually, 13 original colonies, despite the 13 stripes on the U.S. Flag and what was taught. There were only 12.
Delaware was never a recognized colony. It was a territory that was juggled between Pennsylvania and Maryland, before ending up under Pennsylvania during the Revolutionary War. It was known as the "Three Lower Counties" and wasn't even called Delaware at that time.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:46 pm to Alahunter
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I think it's more, because they take their news and truth from the likes of Jon Stewart and Bill Maher, and remain low information stalwarts, rather than seek the actual truth behind peoples statements and claims.
Eh, I've seen her speak live. I didn't need Bill Maher or his ilk to relay my thoughts on her.
That said, until she went off the reservation (so to speak) she was pretty readily embraced as a leading Tea Party Member. Rand Paul wasn't the founder of the Tea Party Movement either, but he's largely associated with it due to being adopted as a figurehead for it.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:50 pm to BluegrassBelle
And what leading religious dogma does he go off on?
The movement, as a whole has been portrayed by the media in a certain light, and comments in this thread echo it. Wouldn't you say?
The movement, as a whole has been portrayed by the media in a certain light, and comments in this thread echo it. Wouldn't you say?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:53 pm to the808bass
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I think that's what Democrats want you to think about the Tea Party and they're doing a good job of transmitting the message. Survey after survey just doesn't line up with that perception.
That's what I think based on my observations, and I'm basing my observations on the actual politicians that identify themselves as Tea Party members. Of course the polls of voters don't align with that. I think there's still a bit of the altruistic ideal with the voters. It's the opportunistic politicians(usually of the religious variety) that have capitalized on the movement and conflated the message. Of course, that's not absolute, but in general from my observations.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:58 pm to Alahunter
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And what leading religious dogma does he go off on?
He doesn't. But he's not the only Tea Party representative either.
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The movement, as a whole has been portrayed by the media in a certain light, and comments in this thread echo it. Wouldn't you say?
I wouldn't make the assumption that people in this thread got their opinions on the Tea Party (or more so it's representatives) from the media.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:59 pm to The Spleen
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It's the opportunistic politicians(usually of the religious variety) that have capitalized on the movement and conflated the message.
That's fair enough. I would prefer to be governed by the first 400 names in a phone book (though probably not Boston's, sorry WFB Jr.) than our current crop. Or our next crop.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:00 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I wouldn't make the assumption that people in this thread got their opinions on the Tea Party (or more so it's representatives) from the media.
Y'all doing a lot of meet and greets with the Tea Partiers?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:02 pm to The Spleen
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It's the opportunistic politicians(usually of the religious variety)
They're in all walks of politics. Progs, have a larger group to cherry pick from, but in the end, they all do it. For the most part, Dem's/Progs, are no different than R's/Rhino's at this point anymore. Even when it comes to social issues. The real differences exist in the smaller, outliers like the TP movement folks. Which just 20 yrs ago, would have never been called far right. The country has just shifted far left to make them seem that way now. Moderates, are what would have been Clinton leftists would have been 20 yrs ago.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:02 pm to Alahunter
That there is only one way to solve math problems in high school and it's the teachers way. Once I got to college, math came so easy to me.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:03 pm to pivey14
There is only one right way to solve math problems. The fastest.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But he's not the only Tea Party representative either.
But, you just stated he's considered a leader and representative of it.
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I wouldn't make the assumption that people in this thread got their opinions on the Tea Party (or more so it's representatives) from the media
Based on statements made, I don't see how you couldn't make that assumption. Based on the numerous blogs, and platforms that the movement itself touts, there's a distinct separation of what their issues are and what is being said on here.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:08 pm to the808bass
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Y'all doing a lot of meet and greets with the Tea Partiers?
I actually went to a Tea party rally a few years ago out of curiosity. Interesting bunch to say the least. I'll leave it at that.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:10 pm to The Spleen
Anecdotal evidence is always best. Mostly because it's impossible to argue with.
I went to a NORML rally once, too.
I went to a NORML rally once, too.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:10 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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There is only one right way to solve math problems. The fastest.
Not exactly, sometimes I solve problems in an extended way that will also solve a problem later on in another question on a test.
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