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re: What conspiracy theories do you believe to be true and why?

Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Cheese Grits
Yeah, Disney's first priority is to make money.

So how are they leading the "downfall of America?"
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Obama's citizenship is dubious at best. Don't care and I think it's fine that he's president as it is but I think he attended college as a foreign student.


From a citizenship standpoint, his mama is undeniably American and that's good enough for me.

I do, however, find it very likely that he used his father's nationality to get into college as a foreign student and that's why he'd never release his college records. As much as I abhor him as a president, I don't hold that against him. When you're a kid with his family background with a card to play that gets you an Ivy League degree, you play that card.

I don't believe any of the others listed, but I had a grandmother that went to her grave swearing the moon landings were fake.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12400 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:01 pm to
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I don't believe any of the others listed, but I had a grandmother that went to her grave swearing the moon landings were fake.



I understand older generations having a hard time believing the moon landings happened, and I don't blame them. It's easier to understand when you include the fact that many of our grandparents and great-grandparents were witness to the birth of flight. 40 years after that and we were still barely able to fly B-17s from bases in England to Germany and back, and 25 years after that we're landing on the moon.

The growth curve of flight and technology was exponential in the 20th century, but it's understandable that someone who bore witness to that would have a hard time reconciling it with the moon landings.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28844 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:03 pm to
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From a citizenship standpoint, his mama is undeniably American and that's good enough for me.

I do, however, find it very likely that he used his father's nationality to get into college as a foreign student and that's why he'd never release his college records. As much as I abhor him as a president, I don't hold that against him. When you're a kid with his family background with a card to play that gets you an Ivy League degree, you play that card.



spot on.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28844 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:09 pm to
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nope it's not blatant at all. I get in just as much trouble with liberals for calling them on their bs, there just are next to none on this board.

And I have never once seen you post something political that doesn't lean pretty hard to the right whether you support republicans or not.



first, there are a ton of liberals on this board. more than any other board on TD or SECR. At a minimum, socially.

secondly, very incorrect. i support gay marriage, granting a limited amnesty, and a number of other non hard right leaning stances that would label me a lib on the Poli Board. The difference is that I will listen to both sides.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:11 pm to
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I don't believe any of the others listed


The only one I truly believe is that LHO acted in conjunction with the mafia to kill JFK. He had connections with Marcello in New Orleans and the mafia had the want to get rid of JFK. Ruby killed LHO because they figured he would talk. Too much Italian in the mix for the mob not to have organized the hit.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 3:09 pm to
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The global conspiracy to silence Gene Ray, a true American hero.


So much schizophrenia on one webpage. Amazing.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8118 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 4:07 pm to
No doubt Oswald killed JFK but I believe there was more to the story than him just being a crazed individual who organized and carried out the assassination alone. The fact that Jack Ruby silenced him within 48 hrs and had connection to the Mafia has always aroused suspicion in my eyes. But we will never know the whole truth. Some secrets are destined to remain buried for eternity.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 5:25 pm to
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So much schizophrenia on one webpage. Amazing.


He's an icon!

An absolutely insane icon, but an icon. Part of me wishes he would leave off the racist crap. The other part of me says, "No. That's the cherry on top."
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 5:28 pm to
Not to be one of those, but I think we could have stopped 9/11.

I also think FEMA is building concentration camps, but I don't think they're concentration camps persay, just a way to confine a certain segment of the population like during WW2. That itself is pretty concerning.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Not to be one of those, but I think we could have stopped 9/11.


And we can stop the next one, no problem. Just nuke the entire Muslim world - problem solved. No? What's your hindsight solution, then?

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I also think FEMA is building concentration camps, but I don't think they're concentration camps persay, just a way to confine a certain segment of the population like during WW2. That itself is pretty concerning.


Where? If it's a big program then surely the site of at least one is known, right?

FWIW FEMA has been involved in some pretty wacky stuff. My first project in my day job back before the Russkies wimped out was designing a blast door for the Keyworker Blast Shelter program. Google it, and be amazed. But I can't see them doing this. Or rather, I maybe kinda sorta could, if they could get away with it. But they can't.
Posted by oR33Do
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Where? If it's a big program then surely the site of at least one is known, right?



I'm not trying to be tin foil hat guy, but I'm a big aviation enthusiast and pilot. Sometimes I sit outside of airports in random cities. Within the last fifteen years (given, after 9/11) we've gone from having barbed wire on top of airport fences facing outwards to keep people out to having V shaped barbed wire things that can theoretically keep people in and out at most airports.

ETA: I never noticed it until I was comparing pictures I took at McCarran Airport back in high school versus today.

Additional ETA: They also reinforced the fences with anchored cables to keep vehicles from running the fence, which doesn't make a whole ton of sense either. Besides a vehicle running the fence and going on to the runway after going through the huge drainage ditches near runways, what's the big issue? Running the fence with a Ryder truck and winding up next to the terminal to bomb it?
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 6:13 pm to
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America: Freedom to Fascism


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...but primarily focusing on the illegality and immorality of both income tax and the Federal Reserve.


Swell. Author should move to Idaho National Forest as soon as possible.

Edited because I hit Submit too damn fast.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 6:29 pm to
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...we've gone from having barbed wire on top of airport fences facing outwards to keep people out to having V shaped barbed wire things that can theoretically keep people in and out at most airports.


Just a guess, and it really is just a guess. But my guess is the "keep 'em in" part of the V is to stop terrorists and dingbats from escaping. Makes sense, anyway.

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They also reinforced the fences with anchored cables to keep vehicles from running the fence, which doesn't make a whole ton of sense either. Besides a vehicle running the fence and going on to the runway after going through the huge drainage ditches near runways, what's the big issue? Running the fence with a Ryder truck and winding up next to the terminal to bomb it?


I didn't really understand this part. Yeah drainage ditches might stop many vehicles... unless they don't. (If I were a terrorist and had scoped out an airport and noticed drainage ditches, I'd visit the site early and lay down a fiberglass bridge that could sustain my vehicle weight. And nobody would notice, because nobody as far as I know monitors this sort of thing. And because I'm devious.) But surely not all airport layouts are identical? (My guess is HS has specified minimum security measures that aren't negotiable.) Again, I don't know. But more to the point, what would be the point of cables for keeping people in? Surely if they're detainees they wouldn't be allowed access to vehicles, right?

It sounds like you're theorizing airports being used as detainee camps. I pictured something with quite a bit more subterfuge. Imagine the outcry if this happened, even after another 9/11. That ain't happening.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 6:34 pm to
Yeah, I'm sure there's reasons for it. It just seems like a lot of the reasons to keep people in (whether they be terrorists or anyone else) seems to support it.

If it means anything, only the airports near railroads (that I've noticed) have it. McCarran especially have had the V type barbed wire things added. For example, San Juan Luis Munoz Airport (on an island, no railroad) still only has outward facing barbed wire last time I was there in 2012. It seems the security issues would be the same there if the real issue was keeping the terrorists in.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 6:35 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 7:49 pm to
C'mon! Come up with a scenario where railroads mean anything! What possible difference does a railroad make?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:41 pm to
No one has mentioned Agenda 21, this one is real.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:21 pm to
I read a blog a while back how the hit song "Let It Go" from Disney's "Frozen", along with "A Whole New World" from Aladdin, I think, are actually songs trying to convince children to lose their virginity. I mean, it was some batshit crazy bitch likely from a Pentecostal church, but it was an interesting theory. The lyrics certainly seem to match up.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:22 pm to
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C'mon! Come up with a scenario where railroads mean anything! What possible difference does a railroad make?



Bringing those poor bastards in via rail. That's the way to go. It's the best transport method for a war machine.
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