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re: Supreme Court listening arguments today
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:15 pm to CatFan81
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:15 pm to CatFan81
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Can animals, children, and non living objects consent to marriage? If not, then your arguments are not only invalid... they're absolutely fricking absurd.
Are you bull dykes not considered "animals" in a way? I mean "bull" ... it's not just a reference to your looks and propensity to start fights with hetero men who hit on your lipstick bitches, is it?
BTW, who's your ginger girlfriend?
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:16 pm to 5thTiger
The big issues of our time.
Once legalized, are they allowed to have cake at their weddings?
Once legalized, are they allowed to have cake at their weddings?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:16 pm to Duke
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Where exactly do you see this slippery slope leading?
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:27 pm to Duke
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As nearly always, they wait until the country has basically decided the issue and now are acting to implement it nationally
Prop 8 says you're 100%wrong. The majority of California residents said no and the Supreme Court over ruled them
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:40 pm to Old Sarge
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The majority of California residents said no and the Supreme Court over ruled them
Because the plaintiff had no standing. Only the state of California could challenge the ruling overturning Prop 8 and the state chose not to.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 4:48 pm to Old Sarge
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Prop 8 says you're 100%wrong. The majority of California residents said no and the Supreme Court over ruled them
Prop 8 was 7 years ago bud.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:11 pm to scrooster
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Are you bull dykes not considered "animals" in a way? I mean "bull" ... it's not just a reference to your looks and propensity to start fights with hetero men who hit on your lipstick bitches, is it?
BTW, who's your ginger girlfriend?
Typical Christian. I must be gay because I don't agree with your agenda.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:12 pm to Stonehog
Actually it was overturned by the Supreme Court just 4 1/2 years ago.
My point was that the statement was wrong about the Supreme Court only stepping in and rubber stamping things after the people have already decided. In the instance of prop 8 the majority of he people decided in 2 separate elections in one direction and the Supreme Court stepped in and ruled against the majority of Californians wishes. For right or for wrong, they trampled on a states rights.
My point was that the statement was wrong about the Supreme Court only stepping in and rubber stamping things after the people have already decided. In the instance of prop 8 the majority of he people decided in 2 separate elections in one direction and the Supreme Court stepped in and ruled against the majority of Californians wishes. For right or for wrong, they trampled on a states rights.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:16 pm to Old Sarge
California =|= the country
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:21 pm to Old Sarge
Once again, the Prop 8 case was thrown out because of standing. The State of California didn't appeal a lower court ruling, some group of citizens did. The state was the only group who could appeal the lower court ruling. They didn't, so the suit is thrown out without hearing the merits.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:21 pm to Stonehog
I agree to an extent but they have a huge and very diverse population, and are probably bigger than most countries. 
And I'm a Christian as most of you know already. But I respect and follow the law of this land as well as the rights of it's citizens. What will be will be, I am not worthy to be anyone else's judge, neither do I desire or seek to be.
And I'm a Christian as most of you know already. But I respect and follow the law of this land as well as the rights of it's citizens. What will be will be, I am not worthy to be anyone else's judge, neither do I desire or seek to be.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 5:37 pm to CatFan81
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Friedrich Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, Jean-Paul Sartre, Richard Dawkins, Mark Twain, Stephen Hawking, Steven Weinberg. The greatest minds tend to be Atheist or, at the very least, Agnostic.
The idea that the greatest minds tend to be atheistic is not one that is well established.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Rene Descartes, Isaac Newton, Thomas Aquinas, Anselm, Jonathan Edwards, John Locke, George Berkeley, Blaise Pascal, Soren Kierkegaard, William James, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Leo Tolstoy, Werner Heisenberg, Moses Maimonides, Al-Ghazali, and Averroes could all be considered "religious".
If you merely remove the term "religious" and go with minds that are, at the very least, opposed to atheism you could add men such as Plato, Aristotle, Thomas Jefferson, and arguably Immanuel Kant.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 6:01 pm to 5thTiger
I always read an entire thread before posting to see if the meat of an argument is represented. The legalities of this subject have been discussed at length but there is an important morsel that has not been touched upon, the science.
Christians and other theists should attach more weight to this one truism regarding homosexuality: Sexual orientation is not a choice and is not changeable. If they could think of it as a permanent birth defect, the decisions of the countries and states that have granted equal rights to gays would make more sense to them.
Gay people are not evil, just biologically different. They deserve equal marriage rights because they have no control over the hand that has been dealt to them.
Christians and other theists should attach more weight to this one truism regarding homosexuality: Sexual orientation is not a choice and is not changeable. If they could think of it as a permanent birth defect, the decisions of the countries and states that have granted equal rights to gays would make more sense to them.
Gay people are not evil, just biologically different. They deserve equal marriage rights because they have no control over the hand that has been dealt to them.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:46 pm to Kentucker
The problem Christians have with admitting that homosexuality is not a choice is that they believe God is infallible. They say it's a choice because they think God wouldn't make a gay person.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:31 pm to Duke
frick it let them be married and miserable like the rest of us
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Of course, we all know that wont happen. It will be legalized, no divine punishment will come and the religious will be left to rationalize as they always have. Nothing new under the sun.
This is probably exactly what they were saying in Sodom before the thunder.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:59 pm to Kentucker
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Christians and other theists should attach more weight to this one truism regarding homosexuality: Sexual orientation is not a choice and is not changeable.
quote:These are not facts
Gay people are not evil, just biologically different.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:01 pm to genro
Oh boy..
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:08 pm to Hardy_Har
They have a term for it - yestergays
More scientifically, mid-life sexual transition in women is a documented phenomena. Correlates with menopausal hormone changes.
More scientifically, mid-life sexual transition in women is a documented phenomena. Correlates with menopausal hormone changes.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:14 pm to genro
I thought that was when a gay dude goes hetro in a last minute attempt to reproduce 
This shite is getting hard to keep up with
This shite is getting hard to keep up with
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