Started By
Message

My experiences with gun-owners

Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:24 am
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:24 am
Let's put aside the tired old arguments about gun control. I take issue with the oft-repeated claim that the "vast majority of gun-owners are responsible."

That has not been my experience. I know this is anecdotal evidence but most of the gun-owners I've known have demonstrated gross negligence.

I used to sell rifles and shotguns at K-mart Sporting Goods. I didn't know the people who I sold guns to, so I can't comment over their personal gun safety conduct. But here are the experiences I've had with gun-owners that I have known fairly well.

My grandfather kept a 22 caliber rifle to shoot rats in his garden. He was a responsible and rational person. You can put a checkmark next to his name in the responsible column. I also knew 1 or 2 guys who worked in the circulation department of the Augusta Chronicle that carried guns. It was a dangerous job working as a walking cash register in the ghetto and delivering papers in the worst neighborhoods in the middle of the night. I consider them responsible too(but see below). The rest of these experiences you can chalk up to negligent gun ownership.

1. A 15 year old shot me in the leg with a bb gun on purpose and shot at my friend when I was 10. My mother called his mother and she said, "I knew he would do that. I told his father not to buy him a bb gun."

2. When I was 13 we lived next to a family from Texas. I was friends with the 13 year old boy next door. He frequently bragged about the 3 guns his family had. His father kept them under lock and key, but my friend knew exactly where the key was. On his birthday, his father gave him an air rifle and said, "now don't go shooting songbirds." As soon as his father was gone, my friend went into the woods and shot at every songbird he saw. I was with him and didn't have the integrity at that age to tell him not to shoot songbirds. So 2 13 year old boys (including 1 who defied his father's instructions) had access to 3 firearms.

3. My late father-in-law kept rifles and shotguns strewn all over the guest room. I remember tripping over them when I got up to take a leak in the middle of the night.

4. I never knew a case when a manager or carrier warded off an attack with a gun while I was a manager at the circulation department of the Augusta Chronicle, but I do recall these 3 unfortunate incidences.

a. I had a retired 78 year old sheriff as 1 of my carriers. He delivered papers in a housing project that required him to step out of his vehicle. He got ambushed 1 night by a guy who stole his wallet. No big loss. Just lost his wallet. But he made the mistake of going back to his car to retrieve his gun. He exchanged gunfire and was shot through the liver and almost died. The other guy got away.

b. Another carrier, while delivering papers...somehow his gun fell to the floorboard and it went off, shooting himself in the foot. He couldn't finish his route. Had to go to the emergency room.

c. A black manager delivering papers in a white neighborhood was arrested pretty much for being a black guy carrying a gun in a white neighborhood. BTW, this was the neighborhood I lived in at the time.

5. I smoked a bowl of killer pot with my regular pothead friend. After we smoked this bowl, he got out his handgun and started playing with it--unloading and loading it and twirling it around. Pretty creepy experience for a paranoid pothead like me.

6. For awhile my crazy neighbor had a bad habit of getting drunk and firing his high-powered rifle down the street. I live in a fairly crowded subdivision. One night, after I got drunk too, I walked over there and suggested that firing a rifle in a crowded subdivision might be a bad idea. He said, "but I shoot in the air." I explained the laws of gravity to him and he agreed to stop.

7. My wife gave a bridal shower to this beautiful blonde who was about 23 years old. A few months after she got married, her husband was cleaning his hunting rifle while she was taking a nap on the couch. The gun went off and killed her.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8419 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:34 am to
Didn't read.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2251 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:37 am to
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28822 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:38 am to
ok.

i've never shot a living thing that i can't or didn't eat. my guns are locked away from anybody but me. those two things are the opposite of every story you just told.

does my anecdotal evidence outweigh yours?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:40 am to
Most of the gun owners I know are pretty responsible. Most of them don't really advertise they own guns, and just have an inherited rifle or shotgun that sits in a closet or gun safe and is never used.


The ones I know that aren't responsible are the most ardent and vocal gun rights people. One keeps a loaded .22 pistol in the end table drawer next to the couch in his living room. He has 2 kids aged 7 and 13.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 9:49 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

does my anecdotal evidence outweigh yours?



yes
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:49 am to
Interesting.

I'm 48. I've owned guns since I was old enough to shoot a .410 single shot.

Everyone in my family owns guns. Everybody I would call a friend owns guns. Not one single person in those circles has been shot or to my knowledge shot something/someone unintentionally.

It sounds more likely to me that you simply associate with idiots. Given that the old saying about birds of a feather flocking together is generally true, some hard self-assessment on your part is probably in order.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I smoked a bowl of killer pot with my regular pothead friend. After we smoked this bowl, he got out his handgun and started playing with it--unloading and loading it and twirling it around. Pretty creepy experience for a paranoid pothead like me.


Undermining any arguement you attempt to make by showing you are a dumbass.


Here is one for you. Years ago, I was living in a really crappy apartment complex because they accepted contracts by the month and I wasn't sure how long I was going to be staying. I had some really sleazy drug users, like yourself, who lived above me. One afternoon I heard them smashing things and screaming. The guy was doing angry screaming, the gal was doing scared screaming. I heard someone running down the stairs and they started banging on the door. And screaming to let them in. I grabbed my pistol, went to the door and opened it to have the idiot girl push past me. By the time she was in, her buddy was charging after her. I put a hand up and told him to stay back. He saw the weapon in my other hand, had a clear change of heart and got in his car and drove off.



He had clearly roughed her up. I directed her to he police but just to show how dumb ladies can be, they were right back together a couple of days later like nothing had happened. Dude never said a word to me and a few months later I moved out of town.
Posted by Russvegas Dan
Member since Nov 2012
1180 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:57 am to
(no message)
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:59 am to
You admitted you work at K-Mart...
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:59 am to
So you give 11 examples, 2 of which are teenagers and 4 are old people and this is supposed to be definitive proof that all 100 million gun owners are retards? Shitty thread is still a shitty thread.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:15 am to
quote:

I feel like there is a reason you shared this but I can't find it.


Maybe the fact that the gun in his had stopped an assault?

Nah, that couldn't possibly be the answer.....
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:34 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:35 am to
quote:

I know this is anecdotal evidence but most of the gun-owners I've known have demonstrated gross negligence.


This is as far as I needed to read.

You consort with trashy individuals.

Seek help. Also, stop posting while you seek said help
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95873 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:39 am to
I play manhunt with my friends every night at our apartment building with my 9mm.

fricking Chad is a cheater with his armalite rifle though.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69895 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:53 am to
quote:

1. A 15 year old shot me in the leg with a bb gun on purpose and shot at my friend when I was 10. My mother called his mother and she said, "I knew he would do that. I told his father not to buy him a bb gun."



Idiot kid with a BB gun. Kids do stupid shite, I had a friend run into a parked on his bike as a joke, went through the window, required over 100 stitches. Outlaw bikes/windows?

quote:

2. When I was 13 we lived next to a family from Texas. I was friends with the 13 year old boy next door. He frequently bragged about the 3 guns his family had. His father kept them under lock and key, but my friend knew exactly where the key was. On his birthday, his father gave him an air rifle and said, "now don't go shooting songbirds." As soon as his father was gone, my friend went into the woods and shot at every songbird he saw. I was with him and didn't have the integrity at that age to tell him not to shoot songbirds. So 2 13 year old boys (including 1 who defied his father's instructions) had access to 3 firearms.



Again, idiot kid doing shite. If you wanna outlaw stupidity, I'll support.


quote:

3. My late father-in-law kept rifles and shotguns strewn all over the guest room. I remember tripping over them when I got up to take a leak in the middle of the night


Either learn to watch where you're going or move them to where you won't trip over them.

quote:

a. I had a retired 78 year old sheriff as 1 of my carriers. He delivered papers in a housing project that required him to step out of his vehicle. He got ambushed 1 night by a guy who stole his wallet. No big loss. Just lost his wallet. But he made the mistake of going back to his car to retrieve his gun. He exchanged gunfire and was shot through the liver and almost died. The other guy got away.



I'm sure the murderer was a responsible law abiding gun owner



quote:

b. Another carrier, while delivering papers...somehow his gun fell to the floorboard and it went off, shooting himself in the foot. He couldn't finish his route. Had to go to the emergency room.



Somehow? Hey, one time, I somehow spilled hot coffee in my lap, causing me to swerve and hit a fire hydrant. Outlaw coffee?


quote:

c. A black manager delivering papers in a white neighborhood was arrested pretty much for being a black guy carrying a gun in a white neighborhood. BTW, this was the neighborhood I lived in at the time.


The gun was responsible for racist cops?

quote:

5. I smoked a bowl of killer pot with my regular pothead friend.


You should have probably skipped this example.

quote:

6. For awhile my crazy neighbor had a bad habit of getting drunk and firing his high-powered rifle down the street. I live in a fairly crowded subdivision. One night, after I got drunk too, I walked over there and suggested that firing a rifle in a crowded subdivision might be a bad idea. He said, "but I shoot in the air." I explained the laws of gravity to him and he agreed to stop.



What he was doing was illegal, and again, did the gun fire itself or did the drunk retard fire it?


quote:

7. My wife gave a bridal shower to this beautiful blonde who was about 23 years old. A few months after she got married, her husband was cleaning his hunting rifle while she was taking a nap on the couch. The gun went off and killed her.



He was cleaning a loaded weapon? Are you sure he didn't murder her?






As usual, you've failed miserably.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259929 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:54 am to
You're a very strange person. I'm assuming the recent restroom ruling gave you more options.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26172 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I know this is anecdotal evidence


Then why bring it up. Has nothing to do with the vast majority of gun owners. Only shows you hang around with morons.

What kind of weird masochistic exercise is this thread?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90499 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

A 15 year old shot me in the leg with a bb gun on purpose and shot at my friend when I was 10. My mother called his mother and she said, "I knew he would do that. I told his father not to buy him a bb gun."


Good lord me and my friends used to have BB gun and bottle rocket/Roman candle wars at this age for fun. We had forts built in the woods and used PVC pipes to launch fireworks and shot full auto cO2 bob guns at each other.

quote:

A black manager delivering papers in a white neighborhood was arrested pretty much for being a black guy carrying a gun in a white neighborhood. BTW, this was the neighborhood I lived in at the time.


This is not irresponsible gun ownership

quote:

7. My wife gave a bridal shower to this beautiful blonde who was about 23 years old. A few months after she got married, her husband was cleaning his hunting rifle while she was taking a nap on the couch. The gun went off and killed her.


Ah yes, it was an "accident".
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
5112 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 12:44 pm to
This week in: Anecdotal experiences

I have never been shot or been uncomfortable around guns.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter