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re: More Pussification in Youth Athletics

Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:51 pm to
What fricking part of "IF THEY KNOWINGLY BROKE THE RULE, THEN frick EM" did you not understand?


Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:56 pm to
The dumb part.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:04 pm to
Le sigh


Posted by Crimson G
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 1:30 am to
In 7th grade I was a bench warmer on the basketball team. At the end of the year banquet, EVERYONE, regardless of how much they played or how big or small their contribution got an award. Mine was the "Commitment Award." To be honest I found this obvious participation award embarrassing and would rather have not been mentioned at all.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:10 am to
quote:

In 7th grade I was a bench warmer on the basketball team. At the end of the year banquet, EVERYONE, regardless of how much they played or how big or small their contribution got an award. Mine was the "Commitment Award." To be honest I found this obvious participation award embarrassing and would rather have not been mentioned at all.


See? Outlining merits to young children totally teaches them stuff.

Like how to be humiliated about not being able to play.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Their parents reportedly made protest signs out of pizza boxes demanding “fair play,”

So the parents want a trophy too!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:01 am to
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So the parents want a trophy too!


In my experience it's usually(always?) the parents that ruin little league.

Parents are the fricking worst.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:06 am to
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In my experience it's usually(always?) the parents that ruin little league.

Parents are the fricking worst.


Hey, hey, hey. People in this thread won't tolerate that WINNING is the most important thing in any sport no matter what the age!

Like I said earlier: A bunch of cowards who weren't good enough when they were young and so vicariously live through their children who really don't give a flying frick about trophy or no trophy.

It's always the parents who have a problem.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:12 am to
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People in this thread won't tolerate that WINNING is the most important thing in any sport no matter what the age!

I'd say winning is the most important thing in only college and the pros.

And maybe not even in college.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:14 am to
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I'd say winning is the most important thing in only college and the pros.

And maybe not even in college.


Even in the pros though. When I watched the Broncos get blown out there was only one thing I could think of:

Win or lose, those guys still make hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the bottom line of the upper class.

Those who emphasize winning above all else are generally the most insecure.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:15 am to
Like the loaded term of "pussification".
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:25 am to
At age 10 it's just more about getting the kids some exercise and letting them have fun with their friends. If you are a parent/coach getting wrapped up in the W-L record of a little league team calm down.

Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:28 am to
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If you are a parent/coach getting wrapped up in the W-L record of a little league team calm down.


Parents take that stuff WAY too seriously.

Little Timmy isn't getting that scholarship, he's an above average athlete in suburban park league. Chill out and let them have some fun.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:30 am to
quote:

If you are a parent/coach getting wrapped up in the W-L record of a little league team calm down.


Yeah I had words with my son's coach for coach pitch baseball last year. Guy was a total prick and treated the kids like they were high school kids. Really wanted to pull my son off the team, but didn't want him to think quitting was okay. By the end of the season the kids just weren't into it, and after enough parents complained he was banned from coaching in that league.

No surprise, I found out he blew out his elbow in high school and all the colleges that were interested in him lost interest.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 am to
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Parents take that stuff WAY too seriously.

Little Timmy isn't getting that scholarship, he's an above average athlete in suburban park league. Chill out and let them have some fun.


Exactly. These kids are ten, the biggest issue of their day is whether they're having pizza or hamburgers for dinner.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

In my experience it's usually(always?) the parents that ruin little league.
Parents are the fricking worst.

I coached little league for a couple of years and you're right.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:35 am to
It happens a lot. I like Mike Matheny's letter to parents.

Matheny Letter
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:38 am to
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Like I said earlier: A bunch of cowards who weren't good enough when they were young and so vicariously live through their children who really don't give a flying frick about trophy or no trophy.

I don't believe parents should force kids in to doing something they have no interest just because it was the parent's dream. I see it now with gymnastics and cheerleading in my area. Competitive cheerleading has been huge in this area for over 2 decades, and you see mothers already putting their 5 and 6 year olds on competitive teams. That's entirely too early, and the ones who start at a high level of competition very young usually burn out by high school.

Yes, I have my kids in gymnastics, but it's for fun, great exercise for them, and they WANT to be in it. I have no plans to let them do anything really competitive (even if they want to) until they're at least in middle school. Before then, all I really ask is that they have fun with it and progress.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:40 am to
LINK
There's been quite a few articles on this stuff, but getting too wrapped up in a kid's competition is part of the insanity we have created.
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