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re: Jesus debate thread. Updated: 30 vs. 3. Existence CONFIRMED!
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:45 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:45 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Only one group truly knows: agnostics.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:47 pm to Legendary0903
ipse se nihil scire id unum sciat
Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:52 pm to KSGamecock
Jesus existed but he was just a preachy,smart dude who had incredible leadership skills. Think Paul Bunyan or Davy Crockett... existed, but nowhere near the legend.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:05 am to samson'sseed
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Christians didn't stone people...they just burned them at the stake.
No... Catholics masquerading as Christians did. The real Christians were mostly the ones tied to the stake... And fed to lions... And having their homes burned and the skin peeled from their flesh... And getting filet'd on message boards as crackpots and imbeciles... And getting screamed at nonsensically on street corners by demon-possessed atheists... And, well you get the idea. Please don't get this mixed up....
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:06 am to samson'sseed
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Christians didn't stone people...they just burned them at the stake.
No... Catholics masquerading as Christians did. The real Christians were mostly the ones tied to the stake... And fed to lions... And having their homes burned and the skin peeled from their flesh... And getting filet'd on message boards as crackpots and imbeciles... And getting screamed at nonsensically on street corners by demon-possessed atheists... And, well you get the idea. Please don't get this mixed up....
Posted on 1/22/15 at 12:43 pm to KSGamecock
Jesus of Nazareth was definitely a historic figure. And as C.S. Lewis stated: LINK
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
? C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
? C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:25 pm to KSGamecock
Existed and will return
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:44 pm to KSGamecock
The better question is, if you knew he was exactly who he said he was, that everything I the Bible was true...what would you do?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:55 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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No... Catholics masquerading as Christians did. The real Christians were mostly the ones tied to the stake... And fed to lions... And having their homes burned and the skin peeled from their flesh...
You just described pagan Europe and how they were "baptized" into Christianity. But be ignorant if you choose.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:20 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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No... Catholics masquerading as Christians did. The real Christians were mostly the ones tied to the stake... And fed to lions... And having their homes burned and the skin peeled from their flesh... And getting filet'd on message boards as crackpots and imbeciles... And getting screamed at nonsensically on street corners by demon-possessed atheists... And, well you get the idea. Please don't get this mixed up....
That's a lot of hate you've got for some of your fellow men. Some may contend that you're the one masquerading as a christian...
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:22 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
The pagans were just good boys who never done nothing wrong.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:25 pm to genro
bout to turn dey lives around... 
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:28 pm to genro
Hands Up;
Don't Worship
Don't Worship
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:32 pm to davesdawgs
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Mere Christianity
Great novel. Listening to it right now, as read by C.S. Lewis.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:34 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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No... Catholics masquerading as Christians did. The real Christians were mostly the ones tied to the stake... And fed to lions... And having their homes burned and the skin peeled from their flesh... And getting filet'd on message boards as crackpots and imbeciles... And getting screamed at nonsensically on street corners by demon-possessed atheists... And, well you get the idea. Please don't get this mixed up....
Crackpot.
Imbecile.
Feel real, now?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:34 pm to davesdawgs
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Jesus of Nazareth was definitely a historic figure. And as C.S. Lewis stated: LINK
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
OR his claims of divinity were added after the fact by the writers of the Gospels
Once again, every single argument defending Christianity begins with the assumption that the information in the Bible is accurate. Without this presupposition, every argument falls apart.
If I assume the Quran is true then I can make just as reasonable a case that Muhammad was divinely inspired.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:37 pm to Roger Klarvin
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every single argument defending Christianity begins with the assumption that the information in the Bible is accurate
Incorrect.
Discerning believers recognize that anything humanity touches, to include the Bible and various denominations, is inherently flawed and should be questioned.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:38 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:OR a madman OR Satanic.
If I assume the Quran is true then I can make just as reasonable a case that Muhammad was divinely inspired.
That's how the trilemma works
So one could believe Muhammad was one option and Jesus was another
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