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re: I blame The South for Confederate nescience
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:20 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:20 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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No other country needed a civil war to remove slavery.
The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze me.
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:11 pm to Stonehog
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The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze me.
What countries used warfare on moral grounds to end slavery?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:14 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Ever heard of Haiti?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:20 pm to Stonehog
That was a slave revolt.
Quite different.
Quite different.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:22 pm to Sleeping Tiger
This was your original comment:
You're wrong. Have a nice day.
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No other country needed a civil war to remove slavery.
You're wrong. Have a nice day.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:25 pm to Stonehog
Oh. I finally see what others have seen in you.
A slave revolt is vastly different than two organized armies fighting a civl war.
A slave revolt is vastly different than two organized armies fighting a civl war.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:27 pm to Sleeping Tiger
It was an organized slave revolt that led to a civil war.
What are you not getting about this? It's ok to admit you're wrong. Nobody is right 100% of the time.
What are you not getting about this? It's ok to admit you're wrong. Nobody is right 100% of the time.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:40 pm to Stonehog
Haiti wasn't a civil war.
It was a slave revolt.
If you can't see the difference in how our civil war and their revolt differ in their organic beginnings and how that difference relates to what I said, then I don't know what to tell you.
Also -- good job sidestepping any of the other comments.
It was a slave revolt.
If you can't see the difference in how our civil war and their revolt differ in their organic beginnings and how that difference relates to what I said, then I don't know what to tell you.
Also -- good job sidestepping any of the other comments.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:44 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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The Civil War is most definitely misunderstood, on various levels.
Which automatically creates a misunderstanding about the Confederacy.
The biggest reason the South seceded was to preserve slavery. That's not really misunderstood by anyone except revisionists growing up in Dixie.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:44 pm to Stonehog
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Is that a joke?
Yes.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:45 pm to Stonehog
Nvm
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:46 pm to Sleeping Tiger
It was a civil war whether you want to admit it or not.
Educate yourself
Educate yourself
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When news of the slave revolt broke out, American leaders rushed to provide support for the whites of St. Domingue. However, the situation became more complex when civil commissioners sent to St. Domingue by the French revolutionary government convinced one of the slave revolt leaders, Toussaint L’Ouverture, that the new French Government was committed to ending slavery. What followed over the next decade was a complex and multi-sided civil war in which Spanish and British forces also intervened.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:53 pm to TeLeFaWx
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The biggest reason the South seceded was to preserve slavery. That's not really misunderstood by anyone except revisionists growing up in Dixie.
Saying the civil war was about preserving/defeating slavery is very similar to saying the wars in the middle east are about creating freedom and democracy for those people, which any aware person knows is untrue.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 6/26/15 at 3:55 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Saying the civil war was bout preserving/defeating slavery is very similar to saying the wars in the middle east are about creating freedom and democracy for those people, which any aware person knows is untrue.
So explain to me what the Civil War was about if it wasn't about the South wanting to preserve slavery.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:00 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So explain to me what the Civil War was about if it wasn't about the South wanting to preserve slavery.
That would require hours to just break the skin.
You're free to learn for yourself.
Do you think southern soldiers were defending slavery? Do you think northern troops were morally concerned about ending slavery?
Do you think immigrant factory labor in the north was slave labor?
Do you think an independent state breaking away from a larger federal government might have been a problem for the international ruling class, who have a deep rooted globalist agenda?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:15 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Do you think southern soldiers were defending slavery? Do you think northern troops were morally concerned about ending slavery?
It's called conscription, look it up.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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That would require hours to just break the skin.
No it wouldn't.
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You're free to learn for yourself.
So like. There are plenty of speeches and declarations from the time for why states seceded. Slavery is the overwhelming theme.
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Do you think southern soldiers were defending slavery?
I think they were defending their state and their states way of life. Primarily from the economic assault that the end of slavery would bring. Wars don't require a checklist of intent from every soldier. You enlist and follow orders.
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Do you think northern troops were morally concerned about ending slavery?
So the Union had a morality checklist from their soldiers? The President decided to keep the Union together. What do the North's soldiers motives have to do with why the South seceded?
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Do you think immigrant factory labor in the north was slave labor?
Sure. What do Northern factories have to do with it. If anything, the Republicans birth from the Midwest, and their financial inability to compete with slave labor was far more a driving force. Southern ignorance focuses on factories in the North.
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Do you think an independent state breaking away from a larger federal government might have been a problem for the international ruling class, who have a deep rooted globalist agenda?
The international ruling class? What the frick are you talking about? What does that have to do with WHY the South seceded?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:22 pm to Stonehog
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It's called conscription, look it up.
So, no.
Southern soldiers were not in battle with the mindset to protect slavery.
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Northern troops were not in battle to end the moral injustice of slavery.
Thanks for answering.
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The fact that morality had nothing to do with the combat is still a thousand miles away from having a full and truthful perspective of the war.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:24 pm to Stonehog
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It's called conscription, look it up.
No bro. If some soldiers in the North said some racist stuff, that proves the South didn't secede to protect slavery. #logic
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:24 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Do you think an independent state breaking away from a larger federal government might have been a problem for the international ruling class, who have a deep rooted globalist agenda?
This thread is getting perilously close to jet fuel and steel beams.
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