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re: Glenn Beck: Birmingham, Alabama will save this country
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:55 pm to BowlJackson
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:55 pm to BowlJackson
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He's saying that this country is headed straight for a cliff the way it's going right now. I agree with that.
I disagree. The country is getting better, safer, more advanced, more educated, every single day.
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In his opinion the only thing that can change our trajectory and save the country as we have known it is a revival of faith. Or at the very least a revival of people respecting one another.
Like the Temperance movement that lead to Prohibition and mob influence? Like the Bible Belt in the 1950s? Like the pray away the gay and Nancy Reagan just say no campaigns in the 1980s? Like the Islamic State now?
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He thinks the South would be the epicenter for such a revival. Which is logical considering how engrained Christianity and respect/manners are into the southern culture. Especially when compared to other regions of the country.
Just won't happen. The youth, even in places like Birmingham won't socially be behind the Church, especially not Beck's Mormon Church. They hate the gays, and that's a non-starter for Millenials.
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He considers the way the people of Charleston reacted to the church shootings and came together as a city as evidence that a turn around can be achieved and would be led by the South.
People can turn around and rally around tragedy all over the country. There are decent people of all walks of life all over this country.
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For whatever reason he thinks Birmingham could potentially be at the forefront of such a movement. Perhaps because of the Birmingham's well known past in Civil Rights he thinks that Birmingham could become a symbol of change during such a movement that he is speaking.
He was pandering. And if he wasn't, he is just delusional. Glenn Beck's Utopia.
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Being from Birmingham, I don't disagree with him that Birmingham could and would come together the way Charleston has.
Millenials aren't down with his craziness.
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:38 pm to BowlJackson
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“The South will rise again,” said Beck,
Wait wait wait, do we have a little bit of an Ole Miss fan in Mr. Beck?
I can imagine him singing this on his show
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:29 am to BowlJackson
You actually listen to what Glenn Beck says?
Do you buy gold from Goldline, so you're safe when gold becomes the only safe haven for smart Glenn Beck listeners like you?
Do you buy gold from Goldline, so you're safe when gold becomes the only safe haven for smart Glenn Beck listeners like you?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 9:59 am to BowlJackson
I don't know what Beck has in mind as far as "saving the country" but I do think that there are a lot of ignorant people that like to point to events that happened fifty years ago in Birmingham as an example of racism today.
If people were exposed to how a place with such a poor race relations history could have grown so much, it actually could do some good. Won't happen though. Racists up North will always need a scapegoat.
If people were exposed to how a place with such a poor race relations history could have grown so much, it actually could do some good. Won't happen though. Racists up North will always need a scapegoat.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:42 pm to BowlJackson
Is he part of the REC conspiracy?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:50 pm to TeLeFaWx
Birmingham is really going to have to get a unified government structure if we're going to face the burden of saving this country.. Can't get these municipalities to agree on anything.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:13 pm to BowlJackson
Birmingham is undergoing a bit of a renaissance. There's a real sense of community and optimism right now.
I know when we tried to get the DNC, the selling point was how it used to be Ground Zero for Civil Rights and now things are relatively good when it comes to race relations here. How this saves the country, I don't know.
I know when we tried to get the DNC, the selling point was how it used to be Ground Zero for Civil Rights and now things are relatively good when it comes to race relations here. How this saves the country, I don't know.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:16 pm to BowlJackson
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with the revival that downtown and several other areas of Birmingham has seen in the last few years, and the way people and businesses have been flocking to move back into Birmingham en masse
I not too long ago lived in birmingham, in the city you're from. I've seen the "revival" of sorts, which is why I always get the teeny, tiniest bit defensive when idiots who don't know what they're talking about rip on the city.
BUT, having said that, it's not fricking saving the country. Nobody is going to look back 50 years from now and be like "yep, it aaaaaaallllll started right there in birmingham". Birmingham is a city that used to be a major craphole that now has a lot of good things going for it with a massive appeal for the young professional crowd. But it's not the life raft that's going to save america.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:22 pm to BowlJackson
Lulz at anyone listening to Glenn beck. 
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:36 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I disagree. The country is getting better, safer, more advanced, more educated, every single day.
Agree
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Like the Temperance movement that lead to Prohibition and mob influence? Like the Bible Belt in the 1950s? Like the pray away the gay and Nancy Reagan just say no campaigns in the 1980s? Like the Islamic State now?
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Just won't happen. The youth, even in places like Birmingham won't socially be behind the Church, especially not Beck's Mormon Church. They hate the gays, and that's a non-starter for Millenials.
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Millenials aren't down with his craziness.
more truth
Good post, too bad you are getting down voting by those who cannot see the writing on the wall.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:31 pm to vuvuzela
Idk about the Mormon crazies, but any church I've ever been to most certainly does not hate gays. Any real Christian does not hate anybody. They say "hate the sin, not the sinner" but I think even that is a little extreme. A real Christian is supposed to fight with love and not hate.
I know many gay people that go to church and are respected members of their church communities.
I know many gay people that go to church and are respected members of their church communities.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:35 pm to BowlJackson
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Idk about the Mormon crazies, but any church I've ever been to most certainly does not hate gays. Any real Christian does not hate anybody. They say "hate the sin, not the sinner" but I think even that is a little extreme. A real Christian is supposed to fight with love and not hate.
I know many gay people that go to church and are respected members of their church communities.
It's explicitly against Church doctrine.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
And? We won't marry you, but if you want to come into our church and worship then you are welcome like everybody else.
Jesus hung out with and ministered to the scum of society that was considered untouchable in his society.
Lying to your parents is against church doctrine but every church still has day cares and youth groups.
Preachers still go into prisons and minister to murderers and rapists.
If everything that was considered a sin was worthy of being banned from a church then there would be no church left.
Jesus hung out with and ministered to the scum of society that was considered untouchable in his society.
Lying to your parents is against church doctrine but every church still has day cares and youth groups.
Preachers still go into prisons and minister to murderers and rapists.
If everything that was considered a sin was worthy of being banned from a church then there would be no church left.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 4:54 pm to BowlJackson
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If everything that was considered a sin was worthy of being banned from a church then there would be no church left.
But love towards sinners doesn't drive various Church's views towards gays, homophobia does. The Mormon Church wouldn't let black people in to the clergy until 1978 since their dark skin was the mark of Lucifer or some dumb shite. God didn't drive that doctrine, racism did.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 5:02 pm to TeLeFaWx
The Mormon church isn't recognized as true Christians by any other Christian church. Everything that the Mormon church was founded on, and many of their strongest beliefs and things they teach are blasphemous to Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, and every other church and person of legitimate Christian faith.
Using Mormons as an example of Christians is like using the KKK as an example of southerners.
Using Mormons as an example of Christians is like using the KKK as an example of southerners.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 5:05 pm to BowlJackson
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Using Mormons as an example of Christians is like using the KKK as an example of southerners.
So why are we talking about Glenn Beck and his version of a religious revival?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 5:17 pm to TeLeFaWx
He never said anything about it being a Mormon revival or even a Christian revival. He uses the word faith once in the entire article. Faith can mean anything. He never even specifically says religious faith, or anything about religion for that matter.
What he specifically says is faith AND respect. Of course nobody wants to mention the respect aspect and immediately make this about Christians because of one word.
It's not my fault that Christians and homosexuals were brought into this discussion. I merely responded to the misconceptions on the matter of the people who brought it up.
What he specifically says is faith AND respect. Of course nobody wants to mention the respect aspect and immediately make this about Christians because of one word.
It's not my fault that Christians and homosexuals were brought into this discussion. I merely responded to the misconceptions on the matter of the people who brought it up.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 5:19 pm to BowlJackson
Ok
Posted on 6/26/15 at 5:43 pm to BowlJackson
Does that mean Jeff Davis is the anti-Christ?
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