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re: Generational Racism
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:15 pm to 3nOut
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:15 pm to 3nOut
I'm a horrible person for pointing out reality?
If a 60 year old white person feels uncomfortable about interracial dating, then isn't that an indictment of an entire generation?
And as your OP stated, if indeed an entire generation is being badmouthed for racism, then isn't that an indictment of our society as a whole?
And if so, then aren't you essentially indicting our country and way of life?
Say what you want about me or your in-laws, but I'm not going to stand here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America.
If a 60 year old white person feels uncomfortable about interracial dating, then isn't that an indictment of an entire generation?
And as your OP stated, if indeed an entire generation is being badmouthed for racism, then isn't that an indictment of our society as a whole?
And if so, then aren't you essentially indicting our country and way of life?
Say what you want about me or your in-laws, but I'm not going to stand here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America.
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:32 pm to deeprig9
quote:What about pikeys?
If I had a daughter, I wouldn't let her date most forms of whites, including but not limited to waps, jews, span-spics, caucazoids, micks, limeys, krauts, ruskies, huskies, armenians, slavs, klavs, or upper-persians.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:40 pm to 3nOut
Know a lot of old people just like that, including several in my family. Hell my father in law says then-word more than anyone I've ever met. But I've known him long enough to know he's not that racist. He would flip out if his kids or grandkids started dating a black or Hispanic person though.
In contrast, the only time my dad whipped me was when I jokingly used the n-word. This was after my mom had already smacked me across the mouth.
Racism is still alive and well, and always will be. I don't see where it will ever be systemically written into our laws though.
In contrast, the only time my dad whipped me was when I jokingly used the n-word. This was after my mom had already smacked me across the mouth.
Racism is still alive and well, and always will be. I don't see where it will ever be systemically written into our laws though.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:41 pm to scrooster
rooster, have you ever considered switching to de-caff coffee? Are you always this angry?
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:43 pm to deeprig9
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Black males with white females is as much upsetting, if not more upsetting, to black elders as it is to whites, in modern times. Certainly not in older days... but today.
This is true.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 8:47 pm to pvilleguru
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If I had a daughter, I wouldn't let her date most forms of whites, including but not limited to waps, jews, span-spics, caucazoids, micks, limeys, krauts, ruskies, huskies, armenians, slavs, klavs, or upper-persians.
What about pikeys?
And Pakis.
noun
1. Pakis
a group of strong and masculine men in Englandistan, originally from Pakistan, who rape Gori.
This is done for sport and because they realize white men are too weak and feminized to protect their women and children.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:03 am to CtrlAltimerDelete
What's also funny is how some forms of inter-racial couples are far more likely than others. I'm guessing with the OP the couple in question was a black male - white female type couple, which is becoming increasingly common. On the other hand you still don't see a white male - black female type couple that much at all.
Yet involve Asian couples and you see white male - asian female far more often than asian male - white female. I just wonder why that seems to happen.
To answer the original topic as well like others have said it's hard to break habits especially when you grew up in a generation where it was socially acceptable to say the n***er in public. I can tell you from personal experience that my mom and dad are from that generation and would never use that word and my mom especially doesn't have a racist bone in her body. My dad really doesn't either but I think if I started dating a black female he would secretly be uncomfortable with it.
Yet involve Asian couples and you see white male - asian female far more often than asian male - white female. I just wonder why that seems to happen.
To answer the original topic as well like others have said it's hard to break habits especially when you grew up in a generation where it was socially acceptable to say the n***er in public. I can tell you from personal experience that my mom and dad are from that generation and would never use that word and my mom especially doesn't have a racist bone in her body. My dad really doesn't either but I think if I started dating a black female he would secretly be uncomfortable with it.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 8:05 am to deeprig9
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I'm a horrible person for pointing out reality?
If a 60 year old white person feels uncomfortable about interracial dating, then isn't that an indictment of an entire generation?
And as your OP stated, if indeed an entire generation is being badmouthed for racism, then isn't that an indictment of our society as a whole?
And if so, then aren't you essentially indicting our country and way of life?
Say what you want about me or your in-laws, but I'm not going to stand here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America.
Nice argument, Otter.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 2:50 pm to 3nOut
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We replied that we wouldn't care one way or another. I could tell that took them by surprise. They said the " well the cultures are just different and wouldn't mix well" line that I've heard before. But we left the conversation disagreeing that there's anything wrong with the situation. Not too heated, but I could tell they were uncomfortable and surprised by our response.
I think that someone can think the way that your MiL thinks and not be racist, per se. I'm black, I wouldn't be offended to hear someone say that. But you said she also uses the n-bomb pretty regularly so she probably is a little racist.
People are naturally going to be more comfortable around people of their own race. That's never going to change. I think she's just verbalizing that and I think someone can say that and not be racist. If the uncle is unhappy because he's uncomfortable that's one thing. People can become more comfortable with these issues over time as they're exposed to it more often.
If he's unhappy because he hates black people then that's racist.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 2:54 pm to 3nOut
quote:I don't really think this is an either/or
My question is (on a macro level) do you think that racism gets a little less with each generation, or is it still alive and well like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the Selma director say?
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:00 pm to 3nOut
probably more comfortable with yell leader type relationships
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:03 pm to Goldrush25
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. But you said she also uses the n-bomb pretty regularly so she probably is a little racist.
Correction. She has never used that word to my knowledge. Wonderful lady.
Her father (my grandfather in law) has and does regularly. I've never heard him use it in a disparaging way (if that's possible.) more like "well back in 1963, me and my n****r neighbor went fishing and caught so many crappie we broke the basket" he'd talk about people in his congregation and friends using it.
now flip that to my side of the family and they used it regularly when talking about Ferguson at thanksgiving. Rather disparagingly.
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:10 pm to 3nOut
If you're teaching your kids to hate others based on the color of their skin, you shouldn't reproduce.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:18 pm to 3nOut
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Her father (my grandfather in law) has and does regularly. I've never heard him use it in a disparaging way (if that's possible.) more like "well back in 1963, me and my n****r neighbor went fishing and caught so many crappie we broke the basket" he'd talk about people in his congregation and friends using it
Ehhh, I guess I know what you mean. He doesn't sound like a hateful person. But it's still racist in the sense that he views black people as beneath him to use that term, and that's a generational thing. That's just the way it was back then so that's all he knows.
All racism isn't the same IMO. There's degrees of it. At ends of the spectrum, you have people that drop an occasional n-bomb and you have people that go out and kill a certain race of people because that's how much they hate them. I don't lump them all in the same category.
I work with an old retired Navy physician. We talk every day, I consider him my friend. But I know he'd be pissed if I started dating his daughter. I don't hold it against him or anything like that.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:20 pm to 3nOut
I think for any white person over the age of around 65 or 70 that grew up in the south, you can expect at least a little racism. Not the racism where they hate every person of color, but the racism where they still use the n-word, look down on black culture, etc. My in-laws are a little racist in that regard, but then my father in law has been a business partner with a black guy for over 30 years. His family was at my wedding. But in white company, my father in law throws out the n-word incessantly.
Only time I've heard my mother in law use the n-word was her talking about kids teasing her and calling her the n-word in high school because she had short, thick, dark hair. But she's also made some comments about black culture that would give you pause.
Only time I've heard my mother in law use the n-word was her talking about kids teasing her and calling her the n-word in high school because she had short, thick, dark hair. But she's also made some comments about black culture that would give you pause.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:26 pm to Goldrush25
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People are naturally going to be more comfortable around people of their own race. That's never going to change
Bingo. People really need to accept that this is the case. Suburban whites and ghetto blacks don't have much in common, it is okay for them not to understand each other. Like you said, until people are exposed to the different sub-cultures more often, they won't understand.
Some people have this notion that we should all live in harmony which is unrealistic. It takes a lot of people to make a world and we will disagree often. It's normal. Mixing everyone up like we have in this country has proven that while we all have the same basic needs/wants, we are really different otherwise.
I think racism is overplayed as far as it being some major issue. True racism is reserved to the ignorant of this country. People that act according to their schema(s) are doing what logical people do, and that is sometimes labeled racism.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:29 pm to Robert Goulet
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Bingo. People really need to accept that this is the case. Suburban whites and ghetto blacks don't have much in common, it is okay for them not to understand each other. Like you said, until people are exposed to the different sub-cultures more often, they won't understand.
Meh. Middle class white and black people have more in common than middle class whites have with white trash or middle class blacks have with black trash.
It's more about socioeconomic status than it is about race... unless you really are racist.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:39 pm to CatFan81
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If you're teaching your kids to hate others based on the color of their skin, you shouldn't reproduce.
I hope that wasn't directed at me.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:53 pm to 3nOut
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I hope that wasn't directed at me.
Nah. I hadn't actually read through the thread. I was going off of the OP and the term generational racism implies that it is taught from generation to generation.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 3:54 pm to CatFan81
I'm teaching my kids to hate white people.
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