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re: Gary Johnson vs Donald Trump
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:30 pm to Weagle25
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:30 pm to Weagle25
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I am voting for Trump because I do not feel like there will be a large enough group of people vote for Johnson to allow him the chunk of money in the next election that both the Republicans and Democrats will get.
And everybody else will feel the same way and vote for somebody they don't want which will lead to people thinking the same thing the next election and the next election and on and on and on
If you're tired of only being able to vote for Republicans or Democrats (which I feel like a lot of people are) then you eventually have to do something about it. They won't change until they're threatened.
And it won't change in a presidential election until a third party gains ground in the other branches and lower levels. The last two major third part candidates to get any votes of merit essentially cost the election of the similar partied candidate.
Perot got over 8 million votes and not one electoral vote.
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:34 pm to HogFanfromHTown
Gary Johnson. He's the only candidate in the race that would actually fight for smaller government and more freedoms.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:27 am to HailToTheChiz
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Gary Johnson: Borders are nothing more than lines on paper.
Maybe one of the top 10 most ignorant political statements I've heard.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:29 am to GumpInLex
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Voting for Hillary
FIFY, because that's all you're doing with a vote for Johnson
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:20 am to bayoumuscle21
Not true. There are plenty of bernie supporters who are 100% never hillary. I think there will be a surprising amount of people who vote for Johnson. This election is the 1st time ive really seen a 3rd party candidtate getting any real attention. Ideally will hurt both hillary and trump's campaigns.
But then again, there are a ton of folks with your attitude that will only vote for their party, no matter how shitty the candidate. You'd think people would have grown tired of the same old shite by now and realized that only having 2 choices is a joke.
2016 has been a year of surprises so far.
But then again, there are a ton of folks with your attitude that will only vote for their party, no matter how shitty the candidate. You'd think people would have grown tired of the same old shite by now and realized that only having 2 choices is a joke.
2016 has been a year of surprises so far.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 8:21 am
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:56 am to HogFanfromHTown
GJ..frick Trump
Gary and I have a lot of similar beliefs on issues.
Gary and I have a lot of similar beliefs on issues.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 8:58 am
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:00 am to bayoumuscle21
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FIFY, because that's all you're doing with a vote for Johnson
Actually a vote for Johnson is just a vote for Johnson.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:20 am to HogFanfromHTown
I live in Texas so my vote is irrelevant. The electoral college is stupid. I'd vote for Trump though. I think he's better than Hillary. Hillary is bought and sold by special interests, and Trump would pave the way for legitimate power restructuring in Washington, which is more important than any one President, IMO. Hillary will be more of the same. Further intrusion of government to suit her power hungry ambitions.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 9:20 am to GumpInLex
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This election is the 1st time ive really seen a 3rd party candidtate getting any real attention
There have been plenty. Perot and Nader('00) both got more.
Perot got 8 million votes in one election and almost 20 million in another, yet not one electoral vote.
Johnson will be lucky to get 2-3 million.
There have been more in the more distant past as well like Anderson and Wallace.
All of these folks captured significantly more votes and attention yet failed to gain one electoral vote except Wallace in '68, he got around 40
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:25 am to bayoumuscle21
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FIFY, because that's all you're doing with a vote for Johnson
better than a real vote for trump or Hillary
my goal is to get the L-party 5% of the vote so they can get federal funding.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:29 am to NYCAuburn
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Johnson will be lucky to get 2-3 million.
he got 1 million in 2012 where both candidate were popular enough within in their voting block.
Both parties hate their candidate in 2016. Weld is a much better running mate this year as well.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:34 am to NYCAuburn
I said it's the first time I've really seen it. And social media wasn't a thing when Perot was running, so among people my age group that i see posting things on social media, its mostly, "frick hillary and Trump, Johnson is the only candidate that wouldn't be a complete disaster for America moving forward."
As for Nader, i was in middle school so i don't remember too much about his campaign. And i was definitely too young to remember much of ross perot (aside from Amanda Bynes' impersonation skit she did on All That."
I'm certain that in my lifetime, there hasnt been a larger group of people so disillusioned by the corrupt institution, that they could buck the normal predictions and vote 3rd party in a surpising number. Due to 24/7 access to information and social media, i think people arent nearly as naïve about our government as they used to be. And people are sick of it.
Of course i could be way off base, just my .02
As for Nader, i was in middle school so i don't remember too much about his campaign. And i was definitely too young to remember much of ross perot (aside from Amanda Bynes' impersonation skit she did on All That."
I'm certain that in my lifetime, there hasnt been a larger group of people so disillusioned by the corrupt institution, that they could buck the normal predictions and vote 3rd party in a surpising number. Due to 24/7 access to information and social media, i think people arent nearly as naïve about our government as they used to be. And people are sick of it.
Of course i could be way off base, just my .02
Posted on 7/1/16 at 11:51 am to Dire Wolf
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he got 1 million in 2012 where both candidate were popular enough within in their voting block.
again he will be lucky to top 3 million, he will probably be low 2's. Even if he does 10 fold of that, which he has no chance, he wont get one electoral vote
Posted on 7/1/16 at 12:08 pm to NYCAuburn
You think he barely doubles his total from last year?? 
He's getting a shite ton of attention right now.
He's getting a shite ton of attention right now.Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:44 pm to Weagle25
Yes and history is a perfect example. He will not get one electoral vote, which is the end game.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:28 am to NYCAuburn
IDGAF if he only ends up with one vote. It'll be mine because he most reflects my views on what I want the fed gov't to be. Keep voting for the lesser of two evils! That's what gave us the Obama/Bush shitshow. 
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:06 am to NYCAuburn
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Yes and history is a perfect exampl
Breakdown the historical example for me. I just don't see a guy who's getting 1000x the exposure he got last time around and is going up against two of the most hated candidates we've likely ever had only getting double of his previous total of 1,000,000.
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He will not get one electoral vote, which is the end game.
It's not the only game though.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:09 am to Aubie Spr96
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IDGAF if he only ends up with one vote. It'll be mine because he most reflects my views on what I want the fed gov't to be. Keep voting for the lesser of two evils! That's what gave us the Obama/Bush shitshow.
That's how I'm feeling. Every year we hear "Well just wait to vote for who you want next year because we have to prevent [insert candidate] from getting it." Eventually you just have to vote for who you actually want in office.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:30 am to HogFanfromHTown
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Gary Johnson vs Donald Trump
It's irrelevant; a vote for Johnson is basically a vote for Clinton. Democrats already have a decided advantage in the number of registered voters.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 11:32 am to GurleyGirl
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It's irrelevant; a vote for Johnson is basically a vote for Clinton. Democrats already have a decided advantage in the number of registered voters.
Johnson is actually pulling more Clinton voters in the polls I've seen.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 11:33 am
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