re: Ferguson, what's your opinion?

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What I think we need is a civilian review board which processes excessive force complaint in situations like this Michael Brown. It needs to be separate from the police.

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This or something along those lines. It's not about stopping those rare instances where a cop exceeds his authority because there will always be bad cops just like there are bad everything else. For me, it's about accountability when it does happen.

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I hadnt thought of this til now, but were or are the Ferguson police equipped with Tasers? If the dude was unarmed why didnt they tase the guy if he charged?

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I made a comment about that earlier -- a dude who is 6'4'' and 280 pounds can kill you without much trouble with his bare hands.

If the taser fails for whatever reason -- which happens often, you're almost at complete mercy.

You know the score when you fight a guy with your fists and he has a gun. It's not the officer's responsibility to make sure Brown goes home that day, it's Brown's responsibility not to assault a police officer.

Period.

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cameras plus a review board would be a good thing in cases like this.

IMO it would show the cop was mostly correct in this case vs brown. You might be able to point some of his handling of the suspect before the shooting as questionable but in the end probably justify putting brown down.

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Which is completely true and lucid.

If I was a police officer, I would definitely invest in a GoPro -- of course I'm not corrupt in any way so it wouldn't be too difficult for me.

I just think a GoPro would save police officers from long drawn out processes and save their arse in cases where brutality was not exercised but claimed.

Edit: Because any time someone says they were abused by the police a large chunk of people believe them immediately.

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Will you put my face larger than life on the back?

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for sure and a lil tear drop of beer

It'll be beautiful

Too bad, you know, I'd be dead and couldn't see it, tho

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I don't think cops should have to be put in extreme danger of getting hurt but I do believe they need to be held to a higher standard than the average citizen on when lethal force is needed.

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Why even give them the chance, though, when so many officers have lost their lives being good guys?

The public needs to be educated. If it were The Republic of SDAR I'd make it common knowledge that even trying to fight with a police officer is a death sentence.

If you attacked a normal citizen like Brown attacked the police officer, no one would even bat an eye if he shot the guy...

Well, that's not true, any time it's a black guy with any level of justification regarding use of lethal force there seems to be those who will claim something different should have happened.

Guy with a knife starts walking toward police officers asking them to kill him? They could have tased him, shot him in the leg, etc. etc..

People need to understand that people with guns will use them because it's an automatic advantage and it'd be stupid not to.

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this but the common cop fights against this.

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I'm even considering buying one for Mexico just in case I get extorted by police or robbed. I have no idea why anyone would be against it, especially when you could absolve/exonerate yourself immediately and unilaterally. Put it on, don't do anything corrupt.

It's really simple.

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Why even give them the chance, though, when so many officers have lost their lives being good guys?

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while many have lost their lives and it is tragic, the job isn't as dangerous as most cops want people to believe. It is still dangerous but they knew that taking the job. They should be held to a higher standard because of training and the power that they have.

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The public needs to be educated. If it were The Republic of SDAR I'd make it common knowledge that even trying to fight with a police officer is a death sentence.

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This is america and it shouldn't be like that. The issue with this is the police could take any sign of resistance and turn it into a justified shooting. Should citizens attack a cop for no reason? of course not, but citizens shouldn't cower in fear and follow every order without a peep.

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If you attacked a normal citizen like Brown attacked the police officer, no one would even bat an eye if he shot the guy...

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this is true and nothing wrong with that. Im not saying citizens should attack cops I'm just saying cops shouldn't use lethal measures as quick as a ordinary citizen.

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Guy with a knife starts walking toward police officers asking them to kill him? They could have tased him, shot him in the leg, etc. etc..

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the ones saying he should be shot in the leg are dumb. The taser might have been an option but i haven't watched the vide. I believe if you are going to pull the trigger you go center mass or head shot.

I just believe that with the power cops hold and their training the cases of them killing a civilian need to be scrutinized more than citizen on citizen type shootings. FWIW not much of this post really has anything to do with the brown case since he was a criminal and got what was coming one way or the other.

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A couple of studies have shown body cameras reduce both excessive force complaints and use of police force. Seems like a win/win. If a police department says that they can't afford them, have a bake sale. The public will probably pay for them.

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I agree and it is clear why it does that. If it is on video then its harder to make up lies about what happened.

The police can afford them, they just would have to stop buying some of the toys. I listed a few different ways of funding these type of projects in another thread

its probably a white fist with a bunch of black straws in it