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re: Ferguson, what's your opinion?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:40 am to KSGamecock
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:40 am to KSGamecock
quote:anyone that believes 100 percent either way is either a cop or a hoodlum. As usual the truth is somewhere in the middle. You have a robbery suspect being killed by a member of the biggest thug gang in the country.
Do you believe the police/pro-Darren Wilson narrative or the protester/pro-Michael Brown story of the events?
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:55 am to heartbreakTiger
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anyone that believes 100 percent either way is either a cop or a hoodlum. As usual the truth is somewhere in the middle. You have a robbery suspect being killed by a member of the biggest thug gang in the country.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:19 am to the808bass
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He wouldn't have a job the next day if he did.
FIFY
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:23 am to reedus23
Yeah. I thought about typing that, but that's probably in the ballpark.
It has no legal bearing on the case, but I wonder if the outcome would have changed at all if it didn't start in this fashion.
And would the overall tenor of police/AA relations improve in STL if police encounters with AAs didn't all too often start this way.
It has no legal bearing on the case, but I wonder if the outcome would have changed at all if it didn't start in this fashion.
And would the overall tenor of police/AA relations improve in STL if police encounters with AAs didn't all too often start this way.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:29 am to the808bass
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And would the overall tenor of police/AA relations improve in STL if police encounters with AAs didn't all too often start this way.
So, when I visit STL next month, I'm NOT supposed to bow up to the local cops? Just want to make sure I have a grasp of customs on that side of the state.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:42 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:rip tbird.
So, when I visit STL next month, I'm NOT supposed to bow up to the local cops? Just want to make sure I have a grasp of customs on that side of the state.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:44 am to JustGetItRight
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It is very uncomfortable for everyone with an ounce of empathy in their body
Bingo.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:46 am to TbirdSpur2010
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So, when I visit STL next month, I'm NOT supposed to bow up to the local cops? Just want to make sure I have a grasp of customs on that side of the state.
If you're outside to 270 perimeter, you can get away with a lot. Inside 70, do not bow up or make eye contact with 5–0.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:47 am to KSGamecock
I don't think it was racially driven and I think the officer acted in according to current law. I think Brown was charging the cop based off of the evidence.
I think we need stricter rules regarding lethal force. You shouldn't be able to shoot and kill an unarmed civilian even if they are charging you. Police are trained, use the training to overpower him or use less than lethal tactics to stop him. The firearm should only be used if the suspect has a weapon of some kind in his hand
I think we need stricter rules regarding lethal force. You shouldn't be able to shoot and kill an unarmed civilian even if they are charging you. Police are trained, use the training to overpower him or use less than lethal tactics to stop him. The firearm should only be used if the suspect has a weapon of some kind in his hand
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:51 am to deltaland
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You shouldn't be able to shoot and kill an unarmed civilian even if they are charging you. Police are trained, use the training to overpower him or use less than lethal tactics to stop him. The firearm should only be used if the suspect has a weapon of some kind in his hand
So... If a 5'9 150 lb officer is being charged by a 6'5 250 lb guy, he should just get beaten to death or knocked out and shot with his own gun?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:56 am to deltaland
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I think we need stricter rules regarding lethal force. You shouldn't be able to shoot and kill an unarmed civilian even if they are charging you. Police are trained, use the training to overpower him or use less than lethal tactics to stop him. The firearm should only be used if the suspect has a weapon of some kind in his hand
No. All of that. Just no.
What I think we need is a civilian review board which processes excessive force complaint in situations like this Michael Brown. It needs to be separate from the police.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:57 am to Rebelgator
sounds like the 5'9 150 officer should hit the gym.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:58 am to Rebelgator
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So... If a 5'9 150 lb officer is being charged by a 6'5 250 lb guy, he should just get beaten to death or knocked out and shot with his own gun?
Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:59 am to the808bass
cameras plus a review board would be a good thing in cases like this.
IMO it would show the cop was mostly correct in this case vs brown. You might be able to point some of his handling of the suspect before the shooting as questionable but in the end probably justify putting brown down.
IMO it would show the cop was mostly correct in this case vs brown. You might be able to point some of his handling of the suspect before the shooting as questionable but in the end probably justify putting brown down.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:03 pm to heartbreakTiger
I don't think it would hurt to review Missouri law with respect to justifiable force either, even if it doesn't apply in this case. The way I read the law regarding force for police, even if he had shot in the back, he could have been just fine. I don't like that. I think that law Needs to be reviewed.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:34 pm to the808bass
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If you're outside to 270 perimeter, you can get away with a lot. Inside 70, do not bow up or make eye contact with 5–0.
furiously jots down notes
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:56 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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So, when I visit STL next month, I'm NOT supposed to bow up to the local cops? Just want to make sure I have a grasp of customs on that side of the state.
Just stay on the damn sidewalk Tbird and you'll be fine.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
if they shoot you tbird, ill come up and loot in your honor
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:58 pm to heartbreakTiger
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if they shoot you tbird, ill come up and loot in your honor
Thx mane...you da real mvp
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:00 pm to The Spleen
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Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Same size guy as Brown and a female officer my size? I'm 5'6 and weigh 125. Should she not pull her weapon, or should she take the arse beating that's going to come?
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