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re: Fellow southerners - why do we keep electing fools?

Posted on 3/14/15 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 3:52 pm to
Culturally True. But the whole state was part of the confederacy, so by the strictest definition of what a southern state is, it fits.
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 3:55 pm to
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You must be referring to Bill because Hillary is a bumbling, corrupt, incompetent dip shite.




yes, Bill. I consider "from" to be where one grew up. She's from Chicago I think.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 4:25 pm to
Most southern states place social issues over those that actually matter when voting, so you end up with politicians focused on gay marriage and abortion legislation.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 4:33 pm to
That is so true. Imagine an election where the issues were economic and not social. I doubt it'll ever happen.
Posted by EastCobbDawg
Roswell, GA
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 4:37 pm to
This is why I've been a Libertarian for nearly 20 years.

That being said, you could also point out all the morons on the West Coast and North East from the other party that are as economically clueless as the southern conservatives are about social issues.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 4:42 pm to
I agree
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 4:58 pm to
Anymore, very few run for state or national office who aren't fools. The best and brightest don't even consider national office. The citizen-legislator is a myth of the past. Now politics is a family business for most
Posted by rantfan
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 5:46 pm to
Jindal started out great but has thoroughly fricked us in his last term
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 5:59 pm to
Rand Paul is doing the same thing. I was hoping he would ignore the social issues and campaign against big government. Unfortunately he has to kiss social conservatives' asses to get support against important economic concerns. I wouldn't be a politician for all the gold in Fort Knox.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 6:14 pm to
Roy Moore is a fricking joke. Total fluke he was elected. Hopefully, we will fix that next cycle.


How about Sessions running unopposed in his district after being involved in that Congressional insider trading deal? He's a fricking joke along with Shelby. We need to redraw these gerrymandered district lines and implement term limits for these clowns. They should also be forced to telecommute to Washington DC and live in their districts full time. I see no reason for them to be in Washington.
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 6:31 pm to
Those aren't the ones I'm worried about
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 8:43 pm to
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Add Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker to that list of shite.



They couldn't get more useless. They enjoy playing 'sane' senator (Corker) and elder statesman (Lamar!) these days but it's just a matter of them presenting well when the cameras are rolling.

We need to shake things up, imo. Elect BOTH democrats and republicans no matter how much voting for the other team gives you the ickies. Right now, both sides know they can do whatever they want and be as dumb as they want because they know their states are either blue or red with nothing in between and we voters will punch the ticket based on party. IF we voters start to change that we will see a return to prior Eras where pols worked together and compromised (withing reason) for the greater good.

These were much more pragmatic pols who had our interests in mind rather than whatever interest group camps out at their office and delivers the $$$ on the side and in the campaign. IT CAN RETURN but only if we do something about it no matter how much it might pain party people.

It's not healthy that too many states have become one party in all but name and it leads to idiots in office.

/rant
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 8:45 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 8:48 pm to
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So what? You think the list of pol's in the OP is something to be proud of? LOL..


He was just pointing out you are part of the big problem of mindless voting.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 8:52 pm to
Do you consider northern politicians to be a step up from southern, equal, or a step down? Why?
Posted by EastCobbDawg
Roswell, GA
Member since Aug 2014
78 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 8:59 pm to
Yep, that's why we need to start voting Libertarians into office, regardless of which party banner they run under. However, the Democrat party is so far left when it comes to economics, I don't think they'd ever allow a Libertarian into their tent, but if they did I'd vote for them.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Do you consider northern politicians to be a step up from southern, equal, or a step down? Why?


This is an SEC board so it's really not about them. Besides, we pay the price when they do something dumb. Yes there are dumbass northern pols but the region does not take the heat we do.

For frick's sake, Stacy Campfield is from New York and said AIDs came from people having sex with monkeys (no racist code there as he meant literal apes/monkeys), among many other low lights. He was FINALLY taken out this year but do you think ANYONE cared he was from, New York state? frick no. Most people in the state didn't even know.

He was a TN state rep and later tn state senator and that is all that mattered. He's not alone either. Where you rep or claim as home is where you're now from even when it's damaging or embarrassing.

And trust me EVERYONE both republicans and democrats was embarrassed by Stacy Campfield. All that isn't fair but it is modern politics, especially when it comes to embarrassments.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:27 pm to
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For frick's sake, Stacy Campfield is from New York and said AIDs came from people having sex with monkeys




Is that not the origin?
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:58 pm to
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One gains knowledge through education...


Yes but not common sense.

And formal education isn't the only way to gain knowledge.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:59 pm to
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Is that not the origin?



Not in the slightest!

SIV that evolved into HIV-1 likely originated with the bushmeat (or eating apes/chimps).

SIV that evolved into HIV-2 also came from the bushmeat trade and a few transmissions were due to hunters who kept them as pets and got bitten/exchanged blood. Hunters in general would have cuts, bites and scratches where blood could get in.

However, the bushmeat trade was responsible for the jump/evolution to humans. Keep in mind that apes and chimps are ~98 percent human and many diseases can be contracted between the two. While much like today it was still blood borne, SIV was able to finally jump because so much bushmeat equaled the meat trade. They'd slaughter/butcher, prep and handle infected meat with cuts etc.

So no. He could not be more wrong about how it made it's way to humans (also consider: a chimp or an ape could kill the strongest man alive in a heartbeat). Exposure to infected blood be it with cuts, bites, lacerations, or even tiny tears the person can't see, much like with modern HIV, is the culprit. THAT allows it in.

ETA: It does appear to be the method for certain unnamed schools. How they acquired chimps/apes to have sex with is anyone's guess.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:10 pm to
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Is that not the origin?


Nah, the most likely origin is the bush meat industry in central and west Africa back in the first half of the 20th century. The earliest reported cases of what we now believe to be HIV were seen in those involved in the killing and skinning of small primates.
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