re: Father of the year: Beats Child Molester unconscious

You've struck someone accused of being a child molester while operating under the color of law?


Wow.

quote:

---

I've only encountered it a few times. I got a few days off for doing what the guy's dad did.

---

"My foot and my fist" like a boss

quote:

---

What I don't understand is the 3-year period of the abuse. That would mean the pedophile started abusing the boy when he was at most 8 or 9. Sick, sick, sick.

---

There's actually a lot of interesting things about this kind of attraction. (Interesting, sick nonetheless.)

Several researchers have reported correlations between pedophilia and certain psychological characteristics, such as low self-esteem[55][56] and poor social skills.[57] Cohen et al. (2002), studying child sex offenders, states that pedophiles have impaired interpersonal functioning and elevated passive-aggressiveness, as well as impaired self-concept. Regarding disinhibitory traits, pedophiles demonstrate elevated psychopathy and propensity for cognitive distortions. According to the authors, pathologic personality traits in pedophiles lend support to a hypothesis that such pathology is related to both motivation for and failure to inhibit pedophilic behavior.[58]

According to Wilson and Cox (1983), "The paedophiles emerge as significantly higher on Psychoticism, Introversion and Neurotocism than age-matched controls. [But] there is a difficulty in untangling cause and effect. We cannot tell whether paedophiles gravitate towards children because, being highly introverted, they find the company of children less threatening than that of adults, or whether the social withdrawal implied by their introversion is a result of the isolation engendered by their preference i.e., awareness of the social approbation and hostility that it evokes" (p. 324).[59]

Studying child sex offenders, a review of qualitative research studies published between 1982 and 2001 concluded that pedophiles use cognitive distortions to meet personal needs, justifying abuse by making excuses, redefining their actions as love and mutuality, and exploiting the power imbalance inherent in all adult–child relationships.[60] Other cognitive distortions include the idea of "children as sexual beings", "uncontrollability of sexuality", and "sexual entitlement-bias".[61]

One review of the literature concludes that research on personality correlates and psychopathology in pedophiles is rarely methodologically correct, in part owing to confusion between pedophiles and child sex offenders, as well as the difficulty of obtaining a representative, community sample of pedophiles.[62] Seto (2004) points out that pedophiles who are available from a clinical setting are likely there because of distress over their sexual preference or pressure from others. This increases the likelihood that they will show psychological problems. Similarly, pedophiles recruited from a correctional setting have been convicted of a crime, making it more likely that they will show anti-social characteristics.[63]

quote:

---

He apparently began acting on his pedophilia at 15.

---

I know that this is an unpopular view but I feel like we need to make treatment more readily available for pedophiles.

I don't think it's a choice for them (clearly), and while that doesn't absolve them of their crimes (also clearly) we do have make it easier for them to check themselves in for their thoughts.

I'm not advocating for clemency to do whatever they want, no where near that, I'm just thinking that there has got to be a better way to go about this.

quote:

---

We don't understand the exact causes of any sexual orientation presently. However, it's becoming clear that it's nature more than nurture that shapes a person's sexual brain map.

---

Link?

quote:

---

I could whole-heartedly agree if there was a treatment but that just isn't the case. Pedophilia is a sexual orientation. That means it's a permanent condition. Also, there are as many female pedophiles as male. Male pedophiles are more likely to be reported because there tends to be penetration of the victim.

We don't understand the exact causes of any sexual orientation presently. However, it's becoming clear that it's nature more than nurture that shapes a person's sexual brain map.

---

I hate to trespass into dangerous territory with this question but: Do you think this is the byproduct of ignoring homosexual brain activity?

I will preface this in bold, even though I know you read everything. I do not mean that homosexuality and pedophilia is the same.

I mean that there seems to be an active group completely opposed to running any kind of experiments that detect differences in cognitive behavior.

This has been happening to pedophiles for quite some time, and there are some breakthroughs regarding their preference but I feel like if we just admit that there may, potentially, be biological reasons for sexual predisposition then we should be researching them to their full extent.

Even if they hurt people's feelings.

quote:

---

We don't understand the exact causes of any sexual orientation presently. However, it's becoming clear that it's nature more than nurture that shapes a person's sexual brain map.


Link?

---

No he's exactly right. There is little to suggest what is the cause of sexual predisposition. I took a bunch of psychology courses when I was younger and my final paper was on the transgendered population.

It's not the same as homosexuality, but determining a person's attraction is damn near impossible outside of declaration.

quote:

---

I agree there has been a minimal amount of research in the biological causes for sexual orientations. Why, I can't say except that it seems to always have been in the psychological arena.

---

I think this is a problem in the sense that even when I was studying psychology as a lad, I could see that the subject was very touchy.

Although, to some degree, I completely understand why it would be done that way. Parents finding out that there was a treatment for homosexuality? I think, generally speaking, we need to convince people that even if there is a matter of 'disorder' (not that it is a disorder) that it needs to be understood and accepted at least in the case of homosexuals.

I feel like with pedophiles, we need to...dare I say it? Study them without their consent. Clearly there is something so biologically backwards that it needs to be dealt with immediately.

I'm a little empathetic because my father when I was younger challenged me after I mad a (regrettably) disparaging statement about homosexuals.

He asked me: "What would you do tomorrow if you woke up and liked men and couldn't stop it?"

Which was really powerful for me as a 16 year old.

I started to use that logic recently in the case of pedophiles.

"What would you do if you woke up and wanted romantic relations with children and couldn't stop it?"

And what would you do? People want to literally murder you and find it acceptable, others want to lock you up forever and some of us want to run experiments on convicted pedophiles. (That'd be me.)

We definitely need to expand programs to help these people, or if not, figure out better ways to coral them. There are treatments, how effective are they? I can't know.

quote:

---

There may be treatments for pedophilia but none that are effective. By effective I mean any that insure an active pedophile could function in society without being even a potential threat to children. That is not the result of any treatment at this time.

---

Exactly, I know they're attempting to but whether or not it's even remotely is successful is hard to tell since most medical admissions are off limits.

It's pretty much just a suppression -- which is depressing in and of itself. Here you are, with this severe sickness that's completely (righteously) hated by society.

I've also heard that homosexuals who have been chemically castrated will still violate younger partners even if there's no sexual motive or release for it.

quote:

---

We have to segregate pathological sexual orientations from harmless ones. Certainly, pedophilia is in the former classification. So are rape, bestiality and necrophilia.

---

Certainly, but there may be some correlation that we are passing over regarding the benign sexual orientations (even heterosexuality). I suppose pedophiles don't make up a sizable population to be considered a significant threat, but I'd still like to see those numbers decrease.

quote:

---

samson'sseed

---

found the pedophile