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Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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He also said gluttony is wrong
Have you ever thought maybe both are wrong? Geez, how hard is that?
If God said it in the bible, it's true. Period. Gluttony. Homosexuality. If God said it's wrong, it's wrong. Period.
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:50 pm to Back to the Future
Not to speak for T-Bird but people use the argument of gluttony to show that the church willingly accepts gluttons...does not shame them....does not mention their conflict of scripture from the pulpit on a regular basis....does not call their salvation into question....the church even offers regular meals with fried foods and sugar filled deserts.
If you can't see how the church treats these two equal sins unequally, then I don't know what to tell you man.
If you can't see how the church treats these two equal sins unequally, then I don't know what to tell you man.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:53 pm to Back to the Future
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Have you ever thought maybe both are wrong? Geez, how hard is that?
If God said it in the bible, it's true. Period. Gluttony. Homosexuality. If God said it's wrong, it's wrong. Period.
/Stacked
My point is that if both are wrong and sins in God's eyes, there shouldn't be such a discrepancy in the excoriation of the two from the pulpit. It makes no sense and flies in the face of how God views sin.
ETA: KOM already said it better than I
Look, OP, sorry the gay thing bothers you so much, but your arguments are way off base and part of the problem many folks have with the church.
But of course you knew that.
Because you're Stacked
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Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:54 pm to Back to the Future
You're a fricking f*ggot dude
Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:55 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I think we agree more than we disagree on this.
I didn't even really mean to make this about this specific topic. Just that as Christians I'm supposed to feel bad for feeling a definitive way about a topic.
I didn't even really mean to make this about this specific topic. Just that as Christians I'm supposed to feel bad for feeling a definitive way about a topic.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 8/7/16 at 2:58 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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You're a fricking f*ggot dude
Dude you are so tough aren't you.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:10 pm to Back to the Future
As long as you aren't hurting anyone else, I don't care what you do. If you aren't hurting anyone, I'm here to help or get out of the way.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:28 pm to Back to the Future
There is only one opinion that matters in this country any more, and it isn't one from a conservative father of 4 who loves his kids.
Sorry, but that is what we have become. The morality in this country continues to decline in all areas. It's like watching a family member die from disease slowly.
It's very sad.
Sorry, but that is what we have become. The morality in this country continues to decline in all areas. It's like watching a family member die from disease slowly.
It's very sad.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Because you're Stacked
Should I not have to ask why you keep telling me this? What are you saying?
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:31 pm to Back to the Future
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as Christians I'm supposed to feel bad for feeling a definitive way about a topic.
If you're being overly/inequitably judgmental about a topic then yeah, you SHOULD feel bad, in all honesty. Not because of the topic, but because that's not displaying God's love as you should be.
Doesn't mean you can't disagree, though
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:32 pm to Back to the Future
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Should I not have to ask why you keep telling me this? What are you saying?
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you're Stacked
That is what I'm saying
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:41 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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If you're being overly/inequitably judgmental about a topic then yeah, you SHOULD feel bad, in all honesty
So by believing what the bible says to believe I'm being judgmental. Got it. Good grief. Stop apologizing for the bible being clear and transparent. It's gonna ruffle some feathers, it's the living spirit of God in a deprived world.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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That is what I'm saying
If that's what knowing and trusting in your beliefs means than you're right. I was raised right and truly am playing from a stacked deck. I'm okay with that and don't feel bad. Sorry. Next.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:47 pm to Back to the Future
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by believing what the bible says to believe I'm being judgmental. Got it.
Except you don't "got it."
The Bible doesn't say to hold one sin in lower regard than another, because they are equal in His eyes. Therefore, if you're the one doing the judging instead of God, you're in direct disobedience of what He's called us to be as Christians.
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Stop apologizing for the bible being clear and transparent.
I haven't apologized for a single thing itt. Please stop making things up if you actually want to have a discussion.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:48 pm to Back to the Future
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I was raised right and truly am playing from a stacked deck.
ISWYDT
Talk to ya later, Stacked.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 3:53 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It was good talking to you, sir.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 4:41 pm to TbirdSpur2010
LoL i thought it was Stacked to from the OP but then i did a post review before responding and thought it was def legit. Man Stacked taking it to the next level with the slower play. Well done sir.
I'll admit it. I got Stacked.
I'll admit it. I got Stacked.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:27 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
I'm clearly missing something. What did you and I do to be stacked but Tbirdspur didn't?
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:29 pm to Back to the Future
Morals are meaningless if we are compulsed to adhere to them. What makes them "good" or "bad" is the fact that we can freely choose them. We have the free will to decide to be "good" or "bad". We need to stop preaching to kids that sex, drugs, alcohol, and homosexuality is evil. They're not.
Sex is fun. Kids are going to want to have it, but they need to be aware of the risk. Rather than telling them that they're going to hell for having it, explain the risks involved from STD's and unplanned pregnancies. Explain how it can affect one's feelings and self-worth from a psychological standpoint.
Don't just blanket call drugs and alcohol wicked, but explain the risks of dependency, DUI's, MIP's, OD's, and how lowered inhibitions can lead to negative consequences.
Give kids the facts. Give them the tools to be responsible. Let them know that their actions always come with consequences that can sometimes last a lifetime, but let them have the power to make informed decisions.
Sex is fun. Kids are going to want to have it, but they need to be aware of the risk. Rather than telling them that they're going to hell for having it, explain the risks involved from STD's and unplanned pregnancies. Explain how it can affect one's feelings and self-worth from a psychological standpoint.
Don't just blanket call drugs and alcohol wicked, but explain the risks of dependency, DUI's, MIP's, OD's, and how lowered inhibitions can lead to negative consequences.
Give kids the facts. Give them the tools to be responsible. Let them know that their actions always come with consequences that can sometimes last a lifetime, but let them have the power to make informed decisions.
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:46 pm to Back to the Future
Posted on 8/7/16 at 5:45 pm to Stacked
Almost everyone misuses the terms morals and mores. Morals are personal while mores are societal, or social.
Your morals don't apply to me and vice versa. Our societiy's mores don't apply to either of us personally.
America's liberal attitude toward homosexuality is a more, not morality. What right-wing religious people can't seem to understand is that they have to live in the same country with people who differ from them morally.
Legally, right-wing theists cannot change this situation. Our system is designed to prevent just such an eventuality.
Right-wing theists would be much happier if they would accept that they live in a country that has mores, not morals. Nations/societies can't have morals. Their individual citizens, however, can.
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Just in general, are we in this country, and in this chat room, deciding to not care and just let morals given to us by our parents end with us, and not reach our children?
Almost everyone misuses the terms morals and mores. Morals are personal while mores are societal, or social.
Your morals don't apply to me and vice versa. Our societiy's mores don't apply to either of us personally.
America's liberal attitude toward homosexuality is a more, not morality. What right-wing religious people can't seem to understand is that they have to live in the same country with people who differ from them morally.
Legally, right-wing theists cannot change this situation. Our system is designed to prevent just such an eventuality.
Right-wing theists would be much happier if they would accept that they live in a country that has mores, not morals. Nations/societies can't have morals. Their individual citizens, however, can.
This post was edited on 8/7/16 at 5:47 pm
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