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re: Cop shoots handcuffed man dead
Posted on 6/19/14 at 2:22 pm to DynastyDawg
Posted on 6/19/14 at 2:22 pm to DynastyDawg
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Eventually I think the guy needs to know if he doesn't calm down something really bad is going to happen to him.
Shooting someone should be far far down the list. If cops are in this thing to just protect themselves, they're in the wrong business.
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:03 pm to Rebelgator
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the video - which was shot from multiple angles - was presented to a grand jury in February, which decided not to charge Flores.
Almost meaningless. The general public gives way too much leeway to cops. They figure if a cop shoots a guy, he had a good reason as a default position. That will change if the police keep killing citizens at the rate they are racking them up.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:13 pm to the808bass
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Almost meaningless. The general public gives way too much leeway to cops. They figure if a cop shoots a guy, he had a good reason as a default position. That will change if the police keep killing citizens at the rate they are racking them up.
This is bullshite. A leisurely stroll to, let's say, Youtube or Liveleak will show you otherwise.
The general public is much more divided on this and there are very few people (if any) who say: Cops can do no wrong.
There are tons more who say: They can do no right.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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This is bull shite. A leisurely stroll to, let's say, Youtube or Liveleak will show you otherwise.
No, it's not. Anecdotal evidence from Liveleak or YouTube doesn't represent the general public.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:50 pm to the808bass
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No, it's not. Anecdotal evidence from Liveleak or YouTube doesn't represent the general public.
Ahh, and your perception does?
An amazing rebuttal as always.
They say the public has about a gap of 51 - 81% for support of the police.
I think the internet is actually a pretty damn good barometer of what people (especially youth) think. Or is it mere coincidence that millions of people overwhelmingly support something?
Is there some major unspoken group regarding public opinion that just happens to skip The Rant, Liveleak, Youtube and Facebook? Anywhere you look, people defending police officers are substantially less on the electronic front -- and to say that the evidence is merely anecdotal is a little ignorant.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:54 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Nothing changes with the addition of a gun -- protests and lawsuits all around.
Except someone is dead.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:56 pm to TeLeFaWx
And?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:57 pm to Rebelgator
Life is precious is the point he's making.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:58 pm to sorantable
It varies for person to person.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:02 pm to sorantable
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Life is precious is the point he's making.
The Human Race will make it just fine without him.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Sorry you're broken inside.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:09 pm to Manzielathon
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No matter if it's justifiable the Cop is still BITCH MADE for not being able to handle someone in cuffs
Not much a reach for me to guess that this guy would snap your scrawny neck in handcuffs AND a blindfold.
But go on with your badass self.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:15 pm to PrivatePublic
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Not much a reach for me to guess that this guy would snap your scrawny neck in handcuffs AND a blindfold.
But go on with your badass self.
It's always easier from the comfort of your home.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:34 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I think the internet is actually a pretty damn good barometer of what people (especially youth) think. Or is it mere coincidence that millions of people overwhelmingly support something?
Gallup Poll
It's not as overwhelming as you think. At any rate, I'm not a cop hater at all. In fact, I've never really had a negative run in with one. With that said, they have too much power these days. When they can kick in my door for no reason, that's a problem.
Now, if you'd like to blindly defend officers that's fine. I will take them on a case by case basis, like I do most things. Police officers are not above reproach and should be punished the same way a normal citizen would. That doesn't normally happen.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 6:41 pm to Cobrasize
The moral of the story should be "dont take bath salts" but in reality will be entirely about the cop shooting him.
And that is indicative of a larger problem in American society, we simply do not value personal responsibility anymore.
And that is indicative of a larger problem in American society, we simply do not value personal responsibility anymore.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:20 pm to Cobrasize
I think the situation could have been handled differently. I won't pass extreme judgment though. For those who have not watched it, I believe it happens around 18:57 in the video.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:26 pm to Robert Goulet
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Almost meaningless. The general public gives way too much leeway to cops. They figure if a cop shoots a guy, he had a good reason as a default position. That will change if the police keep killing citizens at the rate they are racking them up.
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It's not as overwhelming as you think.
I know, that's why I said generally speaking it's 51% to 81% (depending on what areas are polled). That was a direct refutation that Cops enjoy the leisure of the "general" public supporting them in any case.
I take incidents case by case, although I have a different knowledge than your basic laymen on SOP and threat assessment.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
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And that is indicative of a larger problem in American society, we simply do not value personal responsibility anymore.
So the cop has no personal responsibility? Dumb.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The moral of the story should be "dont take bath salts" but in reality will be entirely about the cop shooting him.
As it should be. I'll bet you're grateful your parents, and he rest of your family haven't had to pay for their mistakes by being shot.
Nothing more dangerous to society as people who want their brand of order enforced at any cost.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:41 pm to the808bass
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The general public gives way too much leeway to cops. They figure if a cop shoots a guy, he had a good reason as a default position.
Right. There are still blithering idiots who believe you have nothing to fear if you've done nothing wrong.
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