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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:07 am to Agforlife
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the video - which was shot from multiple angles - was presented to a grand jury in February, which decided not to charge Flores.
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Flores had become something of a media sensation after being caught on camera buying boots and socks for a cold and hungry 83-year-old homeless man
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:08 am to Rebelgator
i guess some socks makes up for fricking up on the job. pretty low standards
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:11 am to Rebelgator
Being a good person doesn't make you good at your job.
Don't think anyone here is saying he did it on purpose. I'm saying he's too quick to pull his gun in inappropriate situations.
Don't think anyone here is saying he did it on purpose. I'm saying he's too quick to pull his gun in inappropriate situations.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:11 am to heartbreakTiger
Did you miss the no charges filed part? Grand juries aren't made up of cops.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:11 am to Cobrasize
I think there's a problem because if the cop had physically beat a man in handcuffs that would have looked really bad as well.
There's literally no way to win in this situation.
If he kicked him in the ribs and broken a few? The headline would read: Cop Breaks Ribs of Handcuffed Man.
Nothing changes with the addition of a gun -- protests and lawsuits all around.
There's literally no way to win in this situation.
If he kicked him in the ribs and broken a few? The headline would read: Cop Breaks Ribs of Handcuffed Man.
Nothing changes with the addition of a gun -- protests and lawsuits all around.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:14 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The next step in the use of force rung after taser is gun. They'd already tried the taser. Being in cuffs doesn't have shite to do with it.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:20 am to Rebelgator
He was a big dude behaving in a "usual" manner. Therefore he should have been escorted and handled by several and in cuffs leg irons and belly chains. If the cops had followed a reasonable protocol this would've never happened.
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:26 am to Cobrasize
This guy should never have been shot.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:28 am to betweenthebara
A grand jury says you're wrong. I'm suuuurrreeee you know more than them though. 
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:39 am to Agforlife
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He was a big dude behaving in a "usual" manner. Therefore he should have been escorted and handled by several and in cuffs leg irons and belly chains. If the cops had followed a reasonable protocol this would've never happened.
If he hadn't broken the law this would have never happened.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:43 am to Rebelgator
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The next step in the use of force rung after taser is gun. They'd already tried the taser. Being in cuffs doesn't have shite to do with it.
I'm with you, I'm just saying that no matter what the cops did it would have looked bad.
"Can't restrain a man in cuffs without beating him? What a bunch of pussies."
"Tased a man in cuffs? Cops gonna cop."
"Shot a man in cuffs? Execution."
Cops literally can't win in any given situation since they have to use justifiable force to subdue someone, and most people will see it as unjustifiable no matter what the proposition. Cuffs, no cuffs.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:45 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I'm with you, I'm just saying that no matter what the cops did it would have looked bad.
Well, yeah. This board is full of clueless cop hating assholes.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:49 am to Rebelgator
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A grand jury says you're wrong. I'm suuuurrreeee you know more than them though.
oh because Florida juries have such a great track record
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:50 am to Rebelgator
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Well, yeah. This board is full of clueless cop hating assholes.
The internet as of late, honestly.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:50 am to SECSolomonGrundy
The poster I was replying to was a Texan. Texas would put a baby to death for not liking Rick Perry's hair.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:51 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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oh because Florida juries have such a great track record
This hea is Texas, not Florida.
Unless you're referring to us being from Florida.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:58 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I wouldn't have cared if they beat the frick out of him. The gun did no good in this situation.
Dude was high as a kite. He didn't know where he was. He didn't have enough sense to be scared of a gun.
Taser won't work? Fine. You literally just left a room full of cops. Call for back up. They'll be there in 2 seconds.
Slap some more restraints on him and VOILA!
I'm not a cop hater, but it seems obvious the gun wasn't necessary her just using regular old logic.
Dude was high as a kite. He didn't know where he was. He didn't have enough sense to be scared of a gun.
Taser won't work? Fine. You literally just left a room full of cops. Call for back up. They'll be there in 2 seconds.
Slap some more restraints on him and VOILA!
I'm not a cop hater, but it seems obvious the gun wasn't necessary her just using regular old logic.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:10 am to Rebelgator
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Texas would put a baby to death for not liking Rick Perry's hair.
bullshite we kill you if you like Rick Perry's hair
I have a seriously jaded view of cops as you well know but I also know what a lot (not all) cops do when they are in those situations and most of them go overboard.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:13 am to Wanderin Reb
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I wouldn't have cared if they beat the frick out of him. The gun did no good in this situation.
Fortunately, you represent a large portion of the United States.
Holy frick you don't? Your opinion is singular? What a revelation.
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Dude was high as a kite. He didn't know where he was. He didn't have enough sense to be scared of a gun.
They were controlling a situation, not trying to scare him. Everyone deserves a warning.
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Taser won't work? Fine. You literally just left a room full of cops. Call for back up. They'll be there in 2 seconds
Do you know how many people have died in "two seconds"? Ever watch a prison video where they get a hold of one of the cage kickers? A frick ton can happen in two seconds.
Conversely: I'm sure you would have responded absolutely immaculately to the situation with your vigorous training in SOP in kinetic situations.
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Slap some more restraints on him and VOILA!
Refer above.
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I'm not a cop hater, but it seems obvious the gun wasn't necessary her just using regular old logic.
Crime isn't necessary, nor is struggling.
There are certain times when cops do things to people who were minding their own business, and I feel more sympathy for them than a dude who is so fricking blitzed that he can't control himself.
If it had to happen to anyone, thankfully it was him.
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