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re: "Christians didn't invent marriage. Why do they think they can define it."

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Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:54 pm to
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I could get with this, though I think government should be out of the marriage business entirely.



So no tax breaks, no notifying next of kin, no hospital visits, etc?
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:55 pm to
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no notifying next of kin, no hospital visits


Can be covered by a simple legal document.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:56 pm to
They do love 'Merica though.

Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:57 pm to
headed to Twitter to follow
Posted by Duke
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:57 pm to
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Churches still preach the parts that they want though...


Been like this forever.

The Bible's books were decided by many councils and committees. Hell the Protestant scum and Catholics have different books in their bibles.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:58 pm to
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"Christians didn't invent marriage. Why do they think they can define it."
Christians didn't get the idea from Jesus, but (Bible-believing) Christians believe the idea originated with God and that the intent was for one man and one woman to be joined together as a living picture of God's relationship to His people. With that said, Christian's don't believe that they can define it; they believe God has already defined it.

Whether the government should be in the the middle of it is another question entirely.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Can be covered by a simple legal document.



What about taxes?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Well, the Christian god set a lot of rules that Christians don't follow. Pick and choose, I guess..

Nobody is perfect.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:01 pm to
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What about taxes?


What about em? If a couple in civil union wants the tax advantages they can incorporate.



Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:01 pm to
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What about taxes?


I'm one one to ask about that. If single taxpayers can't get a tax break, why should married people?
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:01 pm to
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What about taxes?



Bruh I've been arguing the virtue of that for a couple of pages. It hasn't been the most popular point.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:02 pm to
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I'm one one to ask about that. If single taxpayers can't get a tax break, why should married people?




Another good point.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:02 pm to
It is funny to see the shift in argument from those against gay marriage as they see the snowball rolling downhill towards legal gay marriage becoming a reality nationwide. Nobody seemed to have a problem with government's involvement in marriage for 80+ years so long as gays couldn't marry, but as soon as they start realizing gay marriage is about to become a reality, we need to get government out of marriage.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:02 pm to
Some of the most random companies have awesome Twitter accounts. Chobani is pretty solid.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Bruh I've been arguing the virtue of that for a couple of pages. It hasn't been the most popular point.


Point me to it, I can't sift through all of Sorantable's fatness to find Duke gold
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:05 pm to
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So no tax breaks, no notifying next of kin, no hospital visits, etc?


All can easily be addressed by secondary documents.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Point me to it


Any post I've made from the first-third page. It was a back and forth with Alahunter. You don't need to read it all, I'll summarize:

By any social measure the institution of marriage is beneficial. Thus tax incentives are a cheap means of promoting this worthy institution. It's one of the few useful aspects of our current clusterfrick of a tax code.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:10 pm to
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It is funny to see the shift in argument from those against gay marriage as they see the snowball rolling downhill towards legal gay marriage becoming a reality nationwide. Nobody seemed to have a problem with government's involvement in marriage for 80+ years so long as gays couldn't marry, but as soon as they start realizing gay marriage is about to become a reality, we need to get government out of marriage.



Yeah that is funny.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:11 pm to
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By any social measure the institution of marriage is beneficial. Thus tax incentives are a cheap means of promoting this worthy institution. It's one of the few useful aspects of our current clusterfrick of a tax code.




Ok, and I agree with you.


But, Can a couple in a domestic partnership not incorporate and get the tax benefits? I'll hang up and listen
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 4:12 pm to
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By any social measure the institution of marriage is beneficial. Thus tax incentives are a cheap means of promoting this worthy institution. It's one of the few useful aspects of our current clusterfrick of a tax code.



And this hasn't been popular? I loved coming from a stable home, and I like a government that promotes the family unit.
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