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re: Charleston SC church shooting*Updated*

Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:07 pm to
I'm fairly conservative when you consider my past of being a tpos criminal and the only time anyone could ever accuse me of being racist is when I was in a closed society where if you weren't your health and welfare were at serious risk. I believe in equal treatment for all and would love to see it happen but that's not profitable so it never will in this country or in the world for that matter.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:10 pm to
I don't feel any more outraged over any black on white crime than I do white on white crime. I think any crime of passion or crime driven by racist motive deserves every ounce of media attention. But it doesn't work that way. It just doesn't. I can't find the link (which kinda proves my point) but there was an instance in Louisiana a few months back where an old white lady was beaten to the brink of death by multiple black kids over her purse in her own garage.

Another example is the Vandy rape case. Only recently has it come to light that the black player said "this is for 150 years of slavery" or some shite while he pissed all over her after raping her. And they even had this shite on video.

The Knoxville case was a white couple that was tortured, raped (in front of her boyfriend, who was hog-tied), sodomized with a broom handle, bleach poured down her throat, and both shot and set on fricking fire. 3 black people did this. The black chick even had a diary where she wrote about how good of a time she had in Knoxville. Was their court case blasted all over CNN? No. And that's as heinous as they come.

Let's not forget that Carolina Tide is also black, so of course you agree with Stonehog. You don't have the ability to take a view from another angle. You choose not to. It doesn't suit what you want to believe as truth.

Seriously, take a look at this objectively and come back. Again, I'm a liberal white male who made a hard decision to go against the grain, as my family is very conservative. You should really consider putting your personal opinions aside for one hour, and hop on the internet.
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:11 pm to
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Can't wait till this motherfricker goes to prison
5'9, 120 pound...he isn't going to last long
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:14 pm to
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See the same talk on hate sites.


well I see hate talk for republicans on sites that are dominated by black folks. I'll ask you this, what's the difference?

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I don't even know why "Liberal Media" was brought up. This is about innocent people being murdered in a church, someone turns this into Liberal media is this, that, etc. wtf



fair point. But the thread went another direction long ago. Here we are.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:15 pm to
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I can't find the link (which kinda proves my point) but there was an instance in Louisiana a few months back where an old white lady was beaten to the brink of death by multiple black kids over her purse in her own garage.


A black football player from Missouri Southern was murdered by a racist white guy. He thought the black guy looked at his white gf at a gas station, followed the guy for over a mile, stabbed him in the neck when they stopped. That didn't make the liberal media news outlets

Another black guy was murdered a few months ago, the white guy that killed him was a member of the Joplin/swmo honkies. That didn't make the news. Not every murder of a black by a white makes the news. I just named cases in this area. There was another murder of a black kid in Sprinfield Missouri by a white man, believe this was 2yrs ago, that didnt make the news.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Agforlife
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:16 pm to
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Can't wait till this motherfricker goes to prison
5'9, 120 pound...he isn't going to last long




Unfortunately yes he will, he'll be scooped up by a white supremacy gang and protected just because of what he did.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:16 pm to
cas4t doesn't watch the news, but he has a very strong opinion about it.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:18 pm to
Did I say every instance of white on black crime makes the news? No. I haven't even implied that. Don't act as though there is a lack of reporting of white on black crime. That's a ridiculously idiotic notion, considering the last half decade or so.

Name one, just one, instance of black on white hate crime that has made major news in the last, I don't know, year. Seriously, don't google it. Just see if you can think of one.

eta and for God's sake, if you say OJ….
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:20 pm to
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Name one, just one, instance of black on white hate crime that has made major news in the last, I don't know, year. Seriously, don't google it. Just see if you can think of one.

eta and for God's sake, if you say OJ….


DC murder. Black guy that murder that rich family and then burned down the house. Can remember the coverage on Fox, CNN, and MSNBC.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 5:20 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:20 pm to
I don't watch the news anymore, stonehog. Anymore.

Well, I watch the weather and traffic update. So maybe I lied.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:21 pm to
It's okay for blacks to hate whites, we have 'white privilege' that cancels that out. Or so I have been told.

My four takes on this:

1. It was a horrible crime, and my thoughts and prayers go out to all the families affected.

2. I take no ownership nor feel any responsibility because of being white. This was a nut job, not a representative of the white race.

3. I will keep my guns.

4. All crimes of violence against someone are 'hate crimes'. White on Black, Black on White, White on White, Black on Black. Isis on Christian. Doesn't matter.

Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:21 pm to
I don't recall that (I do read these things on the internet).

Link?
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:22 pm to
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I don't watch the news anymore, stonehog. Anymore.

Well, I watch the weather and traffic update. So maybe I lied.


I had to block CNN from my fb news feed because of certain topics. I love news, but to much race baiting
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:22 pm to
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Black guy that murder that rich family and then burned down the house. Can remember the coverage on Fox, CNN, and MSNBC


Don't recall (but could have missed it) the media and 'spokespeople' trumpeting it as a 'hate crime' though.
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:22 pm to
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Probably gonna impact our sales, weirdly enough. It seems like when these shootings take place, we sell more firearms



That's not weird at all. People will be trying to purchase firearms, anticipating that it will be more difficult to do so in the future. Just trying to get ahead of any knee-jerk legislation that will almost certainly be passed after a tragedy like this.


If someone would have had open carry this could have been avoided
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:23 pm to
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I don't even know why "Liberal Media" was brought up. This is about innocent people being murdered in a church, someone turns this into Liberal media is this, that, etc. wtf



Quick question. How do you feel about Obama turning this political? With the whole gun control thing. While I have mixed feelings on gun control, I still find it appalling. I thought he could have brought it up in a week or so, not the same day.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:23 pm to
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I don't recall that (I do read these things on the internet).

Link?


DC murder, a lot more links and videos, not going to post all.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:24 pm to
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I don't recall that


Selective attention. You only hear what you want to hear, thus reinforcing the opinion you already had.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:25 pm to
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Quick question. How do you feel about Obama turning this political? With the whole gun control thing. While I have mixed feelings on gun control, I still find it appalling. I thought he could have brought it up in a week or so, not the same day.


Don't like it, have an AK and AR in a gun case under bed. Also go to shooting range a lot. Love shooting those types of guns.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70911 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 5:25 pm to
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I love news, but to much race baiting


exactly!

honestly, racism sells. It's pathetic and it's holding us back as a society. It's actually creating more of a barrier between races. Instances like this should be viewed as outlier situations, and we, as society, should band together to grieve for the black community. Unfortunately race baiting media outlets would prefer to provoke. It's sad, but the almighty $$$ is what matters.
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