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re: Charleston SC church shooting*Updated*

Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:02 pm to


Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98920 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:10 pm to
You do know that procedures like that didn't always result in a docile, happy individual. Sometimes they altered the personality in unpredictable ways and the reality was they were used in an era where you didn't have a lot of the options you have today.

There's about 100 things you could do in treating someone with mental illness before you start throwing out lobotomies.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:36 pm to
Quick, permanent, useful.

We've had 50 years to advance our medical procedures since the last ones were performed in the U.S.

Beats depending on these shitballs to "take their meds".
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 12:24 am to
quote:

Quick, permanent, useful.

We've had 50 years to advance our medical procedures since the last ones were performed in the U.S.

Beats depending on these shitballs to "take their meds"


I'd say anything beats torture. We're a civilized society, with no objective argument to torture someone -- no matter how heinous they were in life.

Instead we should be talking about how bad our mental health services are.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:05 am to
What happened to the thread on the OT?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Instead we should be talking about how bad our mental health services are.


Crazy people are poor.

Can't make money off of them. So just let nature take its course.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 9:51 am to
quote:

It's all the talk at work here today. Probably gonna impact our sales, weirdly enough. It seems like when these shootings take place, we sell more firearms.


Don't know if it's mentioned in this thread, but here's a law in SC.

Every adult male must bring a rifle to church on Sunday in order to ward off Indian attacks.

https://tealtalkblog.wordpress.com/2014/03/29/5-south-carolina-laws-you-didnt-know-about/

quote:

It happens all the time, right? You are in church, righteously praying your little heart away, when Indians attack the town. All the men run off guns loaded to protect their rightfully stolen land from being stolen back again, but not you. You forgot to bring your gun, you filthy law breaker! I am so not bailing you out this time! I mean how could you not follow the perfectly reasonable law that every adult male must bring a rifle to church on Sunday in order to ward off Indian attacks.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 10:32 am to
That friends is what the face of crazy looks like. Feel very sorry for his victims families and his family since this dude is gonna get the Jesus juice.
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
5857 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:11 am to
Hope you are kidding if not, you are a pos.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 11:24 am to
quote:

The 21-year-old suspected gunman told his trailer park friends last week that he wanted to kill people at a local college — but no one took him seriously because of his “deadpan sense of humor,” neighbor Christon Scriven told the Daily News.

“He flat out told us he was going to do this stuff,” said Scriven, who lives in the same Lexington, S.C., trailer park as Roof.

Last Wednesday — exactly one week before the Charleston church massacre — Roof told his friends and neighbors “he was looking to kill a bunch of people on Wednesday” at the College of Charleston, Christon said.


Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 1:34 pm to
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“deadpan sense of humor,”

There is not a damn thing funny about threats to kill someone. I can see how people wouldn't take him seriously - if you know someone, and you are friends, and you see their good points, I think it's human nature to think they could never commit an atrocity like this. But to not take him seriously because making threats like this was his "sense of humor"????? Dude was obviously disturbed, and evil.

Horrible acts of violence leave us all reeling, and looking for explanations and answers. We want to know why he did this terrible thing. We want to believe there must be something horribly wrong with him to cause the violence. My first thought was schizophrenia. But after considering it for a day, I come to the simple explanation that he was twisted and evil. This was no psychotic break. He considered this, talked about it, planned it. Sat with people in a room and studied the BIBLE for an hour. Then systemically murdered them in cold blood, stopping to reload. Again. And Again. And Again. And Again. And looked these people he studied the bible with in the eye, and told them he had to do it. That isn't simply mental illness, though it likely plays a part. It isn't a racist upbringing. It's just a twisted, evil soul. God have mercy on him.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 2:41 pm to
Dude has dead eyes, every killer I've ever been up close to (and there have been more than a few) all have dead eyes.
Posted by CarolinaCock
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 5:55 pm to
Sounds like just plain evil from everything I've read
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

every killer I've ever been up close to (and there have been more than a few) all have dead eyes.


Sounds melodramatic until you see it for yourself.

Have only seen such in person once. Would like never to see again.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

We've had 50 years to advance our medical procedures since the last ones were performed in the U.S.
Yes, that's why they haven't been performed
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:49 pm to
I truly think that some people are born without the ability to become fully conscious. Some people call it the "soul," but in science it's called the "Theory of Mind" or the ability to attribute mental states such beliefs, intents, desires, pretending, knowledge, etc. to oneself and others and to understand that others have beliefs, desires, intentions, and perspectives that are different from their own.

I also think you can look into the eyes of people and know whether this attribute is present or absent. I've studied serial killers for most of my adult life, as a hobby, because they fascinate me. I have yet to see a pic of one of them where their eyes look normal.

They can usually "pass" in social settings but they will tell you that they were acting. They don't have the social skills that most people have an innate aptitude for.

I think it's a birth defect. A defect in their brains. I also think research could discover markers that would help us to either correct the condition before birth or abort the defective embryo.
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