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re: Charles Kinsey Shooting
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:45 pm to Mansa Musa
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:45 pm to Mansa Musa
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why was that woman attacked at the RNC then? What sick foul message was she spreading?
Your pictures were the first I've seen or heard of that. It doesn't look like she was doing anything sick or foul to me.
Was she possibly being disruptive to the speaker? Insulting to the people she was sharing her message with?
Or was she truly just waving a banner asking for an end to hate and racism? If that's the case, those people snatching her banner and draping the flag over her are certainly in the wrong.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:48 pm to Mansa Musa
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Mansa Musa
Why didn't you respond to Belle's comment above
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:49 pm to hawgfaninc
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Lol @ retard OP down voting every post instead of trying to disprove them
A. I've responded to every post so yea..
B. There are literally no posts on this entire 2nd page down voted except mine. You're probably to lacking in the intellectual dpt to hold this conversation with us adults but I appreciate your contribution.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:51 pm to Mansa Musa
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All the cases keep ending with the same result though.
This is not correct. Some do. Many more do not.
Guess which ones get more run.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:59 pm to Mansa Musa
That had to be an accidental shooting. Nothing else makes sense. That's not to defend the police officer in any way - he should be done, and probably charged.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:59 pm to Evolved Simian
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people who can stand on national TV this very week and say that "White people have contributed more to the world than anybody else"
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You're going to need to provide a link for that. I've never seen anything like that on broadcast television.
LINK
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:07 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
It's not the fact that they get more run, this is the social media age where information is shared as opposed to a time where most people only knew about things as far as their local newspaper coverage would reach. Of course the media is making a killing off it and spreading lies while doing it which is something that I hope is addressed but there are real deeply rooted issues with the say black men are perceived by police not matter how they're dressed or how old or young you are. From our conversation yesterday when you noted being respectful and non confrontation will get you home at the end of the day which I agree with, my answer is what do I (we) have to do to not be stopped in the first place.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:09 pm to Evolved Simian
for you folks saying racism isn't as big an issue as it seems, tell that to Leslie Jones the black actress in the Ghostbusters movie. All she did was make a movie....
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:11 pm to hawgfaninc
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hawgfaninc
I did, may have clicked reply under someone else's comment but I did. Maybe you're just skimming for the stuff you like and don't like...hmmmm
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:16 pm to Mansa Musa
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people
Well, one person apparently said that. I'm offended by it, and I think most people would be.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:24 pm to Evolved Simian
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Evolved Simian
One person? You've got the most racist prejudice disrespectful presidential candidate of all time holding a convention this week. Wanna know why he's there.....because he says what many people feel and aren't in a position to say without suffering consequences. Frick Hillary too, just making a statement.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:58 pm to Mansa Musa
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You've got the most racist prejudice disrespectful presidential candidate of all time
Really?
What are you, 12?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 5:05 pm to Mansa Musa
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for you folks saying racism isn't as big an issue as it seems, tell that to Leslie Jones the black actress in the Ghostbusters movie. All she did was make a movie....
My heart hurts for her. She didn't deserve to be the target of racist tweets.
Words do hurt. That doesn't mean, however, that racism is the overarching problem in society. Twitter doesn't cause poverty, crime, poor education, teenage birth, or drug dependence. It just means that people can say bad things in public and remain anonymous.
The problems that are epidemic in many poor black communities are virtually identical to the problems in most poor white or latino communities. You may choose not to believe this, but I know it very well. Racism isn't the cause, it's actually the frequent result of a cycle that relatively few will free themselves from. Regardless of your color, it's easier to blame your problems on people who don't look like you than it is to fix them.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 5:28 pm to Mansa Musa
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From our conversation yesterday when you noted being respectful and non confrontation will get you home at the end of the day which I agree with, my answer is what do I (we) have to do to not be stopped in the first place.
The goal isn't avoiding being stopped at all. It's going to happen for most people, just as a matter of course. Being respectful/cooperative drastically increases the odds of said encounters being benign (however, like i said yesterday, it's not a panacea any more than increased training would be, for a plethora of reasons).
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Of course the media is making a killing off it and spreading lies while doing it which is something that I hope is addressed but there are real deeply rooted issues with the say black men are perceived by police not matter how they're dressed or how old or young you are.
The bolded bolsters my point. While social media's influence on national media has helped bring atrocities to light that may not have in the past, in also tends to turn some occurrences into conflagrations with disproportionate focus (and mitigate less narrative-advancing headlines). Social media is a tool--its results will continue to be a mixed bag.
As far as the non-bolded portion, there will always be perception/context bias. Yes, there are racist cops. There are racists in every profession. However, it's not nearly as cut and dried as "white cop will always be on edge vs. black male."
The LEO in a crime-ridden part of town who is not on high alert is a fool. As is one who doesn't react with suspicion to someone acting furtively.
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my appearance/comportment is less likely to get a negative reaction from a LEO than a white or Hispanic person acting belligerently. That's really where the rubber meets the road, regardless of your ethnicity, IMO.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 5:34 pm to Mansa Musa
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You've got the most racist prejudice disrespectful presidential candidate of all time holding a convention this week.
Not even remotely true.
And I'm not a huge Trump fan, either. Just favor him over Hillary. Neither candidate is my cup o' tea, tbh.
ETA: Will try to parry with ya some more later--gotta go tear up this road on my evening commute
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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While social media's influence on national media has helped bring atrocities to light that may not have in the past, in also tends to turn some occurrences into conflagrations with disproportionate focus (and mitigate less narrative-advancing headlines). Social media is a tool--its results will continue to be a mixed bag.
I believe this whole-heartedly. For all the good that social media is doing by exposing what happened to Kinsey, it's also being used to further a narrative that is not supported by evidence.
Plenty of cops are dicks in real life. Some are even racist. There is no racist cop conspiracy, though. It's just not true. People are being manipulated to believe there is.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:28 pm to Mansa Musa
Hey look! One of the few instances that actually gets support from those who despise BLM. Maybe if they would use these examples, instead of supporting felons, they'd get more support.
In any case.. as previously mentioned.. right is right and wrong is wrong. And when wrong is actually shown, you get support from ALL citizens. Not just those with agendas.
In any case.. as previously mentioned.. right is right and wrong is wrong. And when wrong is actually shown, you get support from ALL citizens. Not just those with agendas.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:48 pm to InfantryDawg
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What the lady said is beside the point. The police were faced with a person with a realistic weapon and responded with force. It happens and it sucks that a young man died but thats what happens . You calling everything a murder is why most do not take your hashtag serious.
No what she said is the entire point actually. Again it's cute you want to exclude facts from the narrative. I don't call everything a murder, weak attempt at lumping me into blm. You are literally everything you hate about sjw's, impervious to facts... just your feels. If things were as righteous as you ignorantly pretend they were, then there is no civil suit. 6 million is an awfully large sum to pay for something that was perfectly kosher.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:22 pm to MoarKilometers
I actually look at the facts and dont let emotions cloud my judgment. You are so wrapped up in this poor little boy story. You are convinced because some lady says that it was a toy gun that the police should listen to her story. Poor parenting and the childs own mistakes cost him his life. I also do not care if you are a part of BLM or not.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:48 pm to InfantryDawg
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You are convinced because some lady says that it was a toy gun that the police should listen to her story.
It WAS the lady whose call they responded to. It's relevance is paramount to the narrative.
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