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Black southerners of the rant: do you find the conf natl flag offensive?

Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:48 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 1:48 pm
The battle flag is a lightning rod for debate and taken as offensive by a large segment of America.

But what about the confederate national flag? It isn't co-opted by the KKK, it isn't seen as a symbol of hate.

Can we mutually agree to view the southern national flag as a symbol of southern pride, white or black? And if not, what would you see as a symbol you could get behind?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 2:02 pm to
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what would you see as a symbol you could get behind?



Posted by knight_ryder
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 2:02 pm to
Nope. We have lil wayne. Now that's offensive.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 2:12 pm to
I may have been born in Alabama, but I ain't a southerner. I am a naturalized Texan, therefore I exempt myself from this question.

frick the losing confederate flag.

frick southern pride.

frick dems in the white house.

Texas flag or GTFO.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Sancho Panza
La Habaña, Cuba
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 2:29 pm to
Hood's Texans carried the Texas Flag beside the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 3:12 pm to
I'm aware

Texas flag>>>>> confederate anything
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 3:17 pm to
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Texas flag>>>>> confederate anything


Jesus H. Christ on Toast. frick Texas with a stick.

There is nothing in your raggity arse state worth a damn.

Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:14 pm to
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But what about the confederate national flag? It isn't co-opted by the KKK, it isn't seen as a symbol of hate.



True. I don't have a problem with it, but I wouldn't fly it, and I doubt any black person would either.


quote:

an we mutually agree to view the southern national flag as a symbol of southern pride, white or black? And if not, what would you see as a symbol you could get behind?



Racism aside, why would you or anyone want to celebrate the flag of a crushed rebellion? It was a lost cause in the long run. That's like me wearing 2015 Sugar Bowl gear.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:15 pm to
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Jesus H. Christ on Toast. frick Texas with a stick.

There is nothing in your raggity arse state worth a damn.


shite ton of land and Mexicans, but that's about it.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 4:39 pm to
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I may have been born in Alabama


Where?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:00 pm to
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I may have been born in Alabama, but I ain't a southerner. I am a naturalized Texan, therefore I exempt myself from this question.



SA may not be part of the South. But lots of Texas is. So don't make generalizations about the southernness of Texans!

Thought we already went over this?!
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:01 pm to
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Racism aside, why would you or anyone want to celebrate the flag of a crushed rebellion? It was a lost cause in the long run. That's like me wearing 2015 Sugar Bowl gear.


For the record I don't understand the whole confederate battle flag/southern pride ideology however, your comparison made me think. You may not wear 2015 Sugar Bowl gear but you wouldn't abandon your team either. You still wear Bama gear, right? I think that is a more accurate comparison to the OP. The rebellion may be crushed but he's not abandoning his team. At least that is how I understand Southern Pride.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18798 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:03 pm to
Which confederate national flag? There's three of them. The one that we fly in TX is fine with me. Have you even noticed that we already fly the stars and bars on lots of state and county buildings? Most people don't pay attention.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:08 pm to
Going back to my example, why would I show my pride in Alabama by displaying a game where we lost? Why show your pride by displaying the one instance where the South lost? In the 239 years that the US has been in existence, people can't find another symbol to show Southern Pride?


The South is experiencing a major economic boom, with cities like Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte, Greenville, Huntsville, and Birmingham on the rise. More and more people are moving down south because of the job and opportunities and the overall standard of living. Race relations are at an all time high and there truly is a sense of integration that is not felt around many parts of the country. So why not pick a symbol that unifies ALL of us, instead of a select few who hold on to the dream of a failed nation?
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:16 pm to
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Jesus H. Christ on Toast. frick Texas with a stick.

There is nothing in your raggity arse state worth a damn.






bullshite I'm here and I'm worth more than all you stinking aubbies put together
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:22 pm to
Mad
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

SA may not be part of the South. But lots of Texas is. So don't make generalizations about the southernness of Texans!

Thought we already went over this?!


We did. I'm afraid your points were shot down and overruled by yours truly

Texan culture is an amalgamation that cannot be sufficiently encapsulated by the term "southern" or any other descriptor other than itself.

In short, Texas is Texas, and you must accept it
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:37 pm to
Excellent post bro. I like the way you think. Cheers.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:40 pm to
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Carolina Tide


Nailed it. Per par
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 5:47 pm to
Unless they are over a gravesite or some other historical site where they belong I like to see them flying, keeps me abreast of where the dumbasses hang out. Yeah, yeah I know I am at one of those places right now but hey my BBQ is so good it must be judged.
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