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re: Anybody ever see 911:In Plane Site?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:41 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:41 pm to Wtodd
All conspiracy theories are the same. They take shots at all the evidence in a very circumstantial way and hold that up as proof it couldn't happen that way so there must then be a conspiracy. Watch a whole DVD of that and you are pretty much convinced. And it almost always involves people who are not scientists or engineers and are completely unqualified to analyze the data analyzing the data.
The one thing conspiracy theories ALWAYS lack is a better theory. Ok, it didn't happen that way, how did it happen? And what are the compelling facts for that. You will never get that, because that is not what conspiracy theory is about. It's kind of an adrenaline rush crossed with paranoia. It's like going to a scary movie only better. Some of my best friends love this shite. If you totally destroy one of their arguments with fact and or science it doesn't even slow them down. They just move right on to the next one, and that argument is never heard from again, even though five minutes ago it was the lynchpin of their entire case. It's endless.
I'm not saying I believe the govt. I think they lie every chance they get. But they are not very good at it, or really anything else for that matter. And to be able to pull off something that would take 100's of criminal masterminds and 1000's of people's help and silence. Give me a break. Everytime I look at a politician or bureaucrat I think yep mastermind.
Of course it does and did. Hey but I'm sure you won't let that stop ya.
The one thing conspiracy theories ALWAYS lack is a better theory. Ok, it didn't happen that way, how did it happen? And what are the compelling facts for that. You will never get that, because that is not what conspiracy theory is about. It's kind of an adrenaline rush crossed with paranoia. It's like going to a scary movie only better. Some of my best friends love this shite. If you totally destroy one of their arguments with fact and or science it doesn't even slow them down. They just move right on to the next one, and that argument is never heard from again, even though five minutes ago it was the lynchpin of their entire case. It's endless.
I'm not saying I believe the govt. I think they lie every chance they get. But they are not very good at it, or really anything else for that matter. And to be able to pull off something that would take 100's of criminal masterminds and 1000's of people's help and silence. Give me a break. Everytime I look at a politician or bureaucrat I think yep mastermind.
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All those cell phone calls that were made on a plane doing 300 to 500 mph; didn't happen because the technology didn't exist.
Of course it does and did. Hey but I'm sure you won't let that stop ya.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:21 pm to MIZ_COU
Yeah I understand what you're saying. I am not a conspiracy guy, I have just never really checked out any of the documentaries about the possible inconsistencies. After doing so, there were a few things that bugged me that I couldn't come up with an explanation for. I don't have "a better theory", I just feel like a few things are fishy. Figured I would see what others thought about it that had viewed the documentary or other ones like it.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:34 pm to MIZ_COU
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All those cell phone calls that were made on a plane doing 300 to 500 mph; didn't happen because the technology didn't exist.
Of course it does and did. Hey but I'm sure you won't let that stop ya.
It's painfully obvious that you have no idea how a cell phone works.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:43 pm to MIZ_COU
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They take shots at all the evidence in a very circumstantial way and hold that up as proof it couldn't happen that way so there must then be a conspiracy.
The video I shared in this thread does not concoct any theories, it shares facts about 911 that are not in the mainstream narrative. Any controversial issue is looked at from multiple angles. The conspiracy theorist angle, then the dubunkers counterpoint. It is not the typical immature conspiracy documentary.
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The one thing conspiracy theories ALWAYS lack is a better theory.
What you don't understand is in many cases no theory is necessary to show that the official story is not accurate.
A big problem is most people are not very intelligent, on both sides of these arguments. The believers and the non believers, so the dialogues are kind of emberrassing and incomplete. Another big problem is almost all non believers of these conspiracies have spent little to no time at all researching the facts. They are simply disagreeing based on their preexisting perception of reality.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:47 pm to Wtodd
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All those cell phone calls that were made on a plane doing 300 to 500 mph; didn't happen because the technology didn't exist.
Plane speed has nothing to do with the ability to make calls. Altitude would have been the primary factor.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:52 pm to Wtodd
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It's painfully obvious that you have no idea how a cell phone works.
I'm sure you know exactly how it works genius. How's that electrical engineering degree working out for ya?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:56 pm to Rodeonaut
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Plane speed has nothing to do with the ability to make calls. Altitude would have been the primary factor.
Those planes were flying low. They were navigated by landmarks. Not that it mattered. I used to use my cell all the time before the ban. Worked great, better that on the ground really.
One last try before I give up. I watched like 10-15 minutes of that movie (so maybe I saw the bad part). I just remember thinking this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They had no evidence. This blurry photo, this fact that's not even a fact. It was the equivalent of looking at clouds to see what u can see (the answer is whatever you are trying to see).
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:58 pm to MIZ_COU
Maybe you should explain to him how speed can effect the ability to make a cell phone call?
As much as I've researched I've never once seen anyone take the stance that the plane speed prohibited the ability to make cell phone calls. Even Dr. Griffith, who's the most thorough and intelligent anti 911 author, has never talked about speed being a factor, he only addresses altitude.
So perhaps you could use your educational background and explain why speed is a factor?
As much as I've researched I've never once seen anyone take the stance that the plane speed prohibited the ability to make cell phone calls. Even Dr. Griffith, who's the most thorough and intelligent anti 911 author, has never talked about speed being a factor, he only addresses altitude.
So perhaps you could use your educational background and explain why speed is a factor?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:59 pm to MIZ_COU
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Those planes were flying low. They were navigated by landmarks. Not that it mattered. I used to use my cell all the time before the ban. Worked great, better that on the ground really.
This is why it's not the best idea for people that haven't done any research to engage in these conversations.
They have the time and altitude of the calls documented. The planes were not always flying low, before they descanted onto their targets they were flying at higher altitudes.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:02 pm to Rodeonaut
That reply wasn't to you. And what was the point of the cell phone in your 'documentary'.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:12 pm to MIZ_COU
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That reply wasn't to you. And what was the point of the cell phone in your 'documentary'.
You responded to me, and quoted me.. I could only assume the reply was to me.
The documentary I shared earlier in this thread doesn't really get into the cell phone issue, it's not something that can really be hammered down, so there is no point.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 4:21 pm to Wtodd
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Do I know what happened? No but the official story is BS.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 4:46 pm to the808bass
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The government can't make a functioning website but can pull off 9/11.
This.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:11 pm to LakeCountryRed
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The government can't make a functioning website but can pull off 9/11.
This.
What is failed to be understood in this assessment is that the same government that can't create a website is not the same one that would pull off grand attacks like 911. So this dismissal is not applicable.
It isn't the standard American government that did 911, rather a very powerful entity that has power within many governments.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:15 pm to Rodeonaut
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It isn't the standard American government that did 911, rather a very powerful entity that has power within many governments.
Yes and although we have no evidence that this shadowy power exits that proves they exist! Don't you see. Damn they is good. Besides if you take this blurry photo completely out of context you can't help but notice that this entity resides in a crystal ice cavern near the north pole, having recently moved from area 51
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:20 pm to MIZ_COU
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Yes and although we have no evidence that this shadowy power exits that proves they exist!
Based on your lack of command of the English language, I doubt you've heard of real organizations such as the Tri-Lateral Commission and the like. These are very powerful organizations, that are not in secrecy, that have great power over world governments.
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Besides if you take this blurry photo completely out of context you can't help but notice that this entity resides in a crystal ice cavern near the north pole, having recently moved from area 51
What in the good lords name are you taking about?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:30 pm to Rodeonaut
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It isn't the standard American government that did 911, rather a very powerful entity that has power within many governments.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:31 pm to Rodeonaut
Can't you see it man! Can't you!
(Although the Carlyle group exists and that's some scary shite, but ya know there is actual evidence of that)
And quit making fun of me talks english
And don't let me stop you from enjoying that world in your head. It seams like a very exciting place
(Although the Carlyle group exists and that's some scary shite, but ya know there is actual evidence of that)
And quit making fun of me talks english
And don't let me stop you from enjoying that world in your head. It seams like a very exciting place
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:54 pm to MIZ_COU
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(Although the Carlyle group exists and that's some scary shite, but ya know there is actual evidence of that)
What?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 7:05 pm to Rodeonaut
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These are very powerful organizations, that are not in secrecy, that have great power over world governments
And here are their storm troopers...the mighty one world Masonic conspiracy.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 7:06 pm
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