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Anybody ever see 911:In Plane Site?

Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:20 am
Posted by We_Need_Cam
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:20 am
I have never been a conspiracy type guy, especially about 9/11, but someone I respect told me to watch it so I did... There is some pretty crazy stuff in there. Anyone that has seen this documentary please tell me why it is nothing but lies because I am quite disturbed.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:42 am to
Just think about it for a few minutes and you'll put your mind at ease.

Like, imagine the number of people that would have to be in on such a conspiracy. Nixon couldn't keep Watergate covered up. But GWB and Co could have thousands of people know about the mass murder of Americans and say nothing?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:44 am to
The government can't make a functioning website but can pull off 9/11. Seems legit.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 8:46 am to
Duke

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Just think about it for a few minutes and you'll put your mind at ease. Imagine the number of people that would have to be in on such a conspiracy. Nixon couldn't keep Watergate covered up. But GWB and Co could have thousands of people know about the mass murder of Americans and say nothing?



VERY MUCH THIS ^^^


So, who do you believe more: 1) The widows and spouses of people who talked to the people who were on board the planes just before they died, or 2) conspiracy theorists who cannot accept the fact that terrorists can actually pull off a 9/11 type strike?


So you're telling me that all of the widows and widowers and their children are in on it?
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 8:49 am to
The only thing I don't really believe is that the passengers of that one flight over powered the terrorists and caused that airliner to crash in Pennsylvania... Not saying they didn't attempt to do so... But our military shot that plane down... Not that they had much of a choice.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 8:50 am to
The only conspiracy that I allow myself to believe may be a remote possibility is the Pearl Harbor scenario: That our government may have known this type of attack was imminent but probably didn't know the exact day that it would occur, and perhaps allowed the attack to take place in order to justify a call to war.

I only believe that this could have happened because it has happened before, hence why I call it the Pearl Harbor scenario.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 8:57 am to
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That our government may have known this type of attack was imminent but probably didn't know the exact day that it would occur, and perhaps allowed the attack to take place in order to justify a call to war.

This is a more rational conspiracy theory. But I'm not sure what interest the government had, even imagined, in promoting a war with Afghanistan.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:06 am to
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This is a more rational conspiracy theory. But I'm not sure what interest the government had, even imagined, in promoting a war with Afghanistan.



A large scale attack like 9/11 would so horrify the world that the US would feel justified to invade countries in order to attempt to destroy al-qaeda and other militant cells. Before 9/11, we couldn't do that.

Also, we could use the war on terror to justify a broader sense of war to include tyrants who either harbor terrorists or tyrants who act like terrorists, hence the Iraq invasion.

For the oil conspiracists, oil was just a nice reward for toppling Hussein.

FWIW...all of this occurred which is why I don't feel crazy believing in the Pearl Harbor scenario.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35604 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:07 am to
quote:


The only thing I don't really believe is that the passengers of that one flight over powered the terrorists and caused that airliner to crash in Pennsylvania... Not saying they didn't attempt to do so... But our military shot that plane down... Not that they had much of a choice.


If I'm on that plane and know what happened in NY and DC, I'm joining in the plan to rush the terrorist. They had boxcutters, but that's not going to overcome a rush of people fighting to possibly save their own lives but certainly save others. The military may have shot down the plane, but I can believe those people overpowered the terrorist if enough of them joined in.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:21 am to
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Like, imagine the number of people that would have to be in on such a conspiracy. Nixon couldn't keep Watergate covered up. But GWB and Co could have thousands of people know about the mass murder of Americans and say nothing?

People said GWB couldn't put a useful sentence together, yet he masterminded 9/11 without a single sole defector?

Yeah, that happened.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:26 am to
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The military may have shot down the plane, but I can believe those people overpowered the terrorist if enough of them joined in.


This. You get a handful of grown men with true fear for their life and a few box cutters aren't going to stop them all.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:29 am to
quote:

The only thing I don't really believe is that the passengers of that one flight over powered the terrorists and caused that airliner to crash in Pennsylvania... Not saying they didn't attempt to do so... But our military shot that plane down... Not that they had much of a choice.


If I'm on that plane and know what happened in NY and DC, I'm joining in the plan to rush the terrorist. They had boxcutters, but that's not going to overcome a rush of people fighting to possibly save their own lives but certainly save others. The military may have shot down the plane, but I can believe those people overpowered the terrorist if enough of them joined in.


Don't know what happened but I do believe it could be either. As for the theory that is was done by our government that is just stupid. Do I think that they knew some sort of attack was eminent, yes. Do I think they used it to push an agenda in the middle east, yes. Do I think they used it to push us onto more of a police state than we already live in and will continue to do so, yes.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:30 am to
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People said GWB couldn't put a useful sentence together, yet he masterminded 9/11 without a single sole defector? Yeah, that happened.





exactly.

Not to mention that it happened so early in his Presidency that he had less than a year to mastermind the entire thing.

That would imply that he had been working on this masterplan before he became President, or that this was a bi-partisan plan which would imply that Clinton was involved too.

Or else it was the scary Jews.
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:34 am to
So has anyone actually seen the documentary I am referring to? The only thing that I just can't get over is the Pentagon. Based on the damage to the Pentagon, I am not convinced a fully fueled Boeing 757 is what hit it. Just doesn't seem plausible.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:35 am to
quote:

This. You get a handful of grown men with true fear for their life and a few box cutters aren't going to stop them all.



Not to mention that those grown men were on the phone with their wives telling them that they were going to attack the terrorists.

Quite frankly, the conspiracy theories are incredibly insulting to the victims' families because the theories assume that the victim's families are telling lies.
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:38 am to
I am definitely not suggesting that the victim's family are telling lies. I just can't wrap my head around the damage to the Pentagon. The size of it is just not big enough to suggest a fully fueled 757 hit it.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:44 am to
quote:

So has anyone actually seen the documentary I am referring to? The only thing that I just can't get over is the Pentagon. Based on the damage to the Pentagon, I am not convinced a fully fueled Boeing 757 is what hit it. Just doesn't seem plausible.



You're right. It was a jewish missile. A large missile that was placed just outside of the Pentagon without anyone noticing it sitting there waiting to be launched directly at the Pentagon.

I know what you're referring to. Video purportedly shows a flash of something shooting horizontally just above the ground and into the Pentagon. Conspiracists theorists say that the flash couldn't possibly be a huge airplane. It must be a missile!

However, wouldn't a normal missile hit a target from the air? This "missile" didn't. It hit the Pentagon horizontal to the ground implying that it had been fired from the ground.

Do you realize how large the security zone is around the Pentagon? Once again, this implies that someone was able to get a large missile within the Pentagon's security zone without anyone noticing, fire it at the Pentagon, and then escape without anyone noticing.

Must be our government, right? Or the jews.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:44 am to
Maybe it didn't hit it the way they planned. Maybe that particular terrorist didn't pay attn in flight lessons and just missed. Maybe the military got a fighter up and put the plane down just short of its goal. We will never know that's above our pay grade
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:46 am to
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FWIW...all of this occurred which is why I don't feel crazy believing in the Pearl Harbor scenario.



Yeah but that's circular reasoning brought about post facto.
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:48 am to
Alright man just completely ignore anything that raises red flags and ask no questions...

Why is there no picture of a plane hitting the Pentagon? Why is there not one single eye witness account of a plane hitting it. I don't know if you have ever flown into DCA before but you are right next to the Pentagon. You would think an air traffic controller would have seen that. You would think one of the many people in the Pentagon area would have scene a Boeing 757 crash into it.

To not ask questions is being naive.
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