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re: Any sliver of belief in god i was raised to have is slowly being destroyed.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:08 pm to DawgGONIT
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:08 pm to DawgGONIT
quote:What did He do to rustle your jimmies so harshly?
frick your GOD!!
quote:I assume you meant creatures, and He created us as perfect creatures. We screwed it up.
he sure does create imperfect creates
quote:That snake who many believe to be the devil has deceived humanity since creation. If she's stupid, then what does that make you or me?
a stupid as woman who listens to a snake.
quote:Also sounds like you need a Xanax.
Sounds wacko to me.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:36 am to TbirdSpur2010
I just got back from 2 weeks in the mountains. Every rock, mountain, river, waterfall and creature seemed to cry out His name. All I had to do was listen. It was wonderful and refreshing.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 12:07 pm to Duke
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The "human" Jesus died on the cross.
And supposedly the human Jesus arose from the dead and ascended, bodily, into heaven.
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It's a message of sacrificing of yourself for the good of humanity
What did he sacrifice? One weekend?
The whole notion of sacrifice as related to Jesus Christ is complete bullshite.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 1:14 pm to Old Sarge
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I just got back from 2 weeks in the mountains. Every rock, mountain, river, waterfall and creature seemed to cry out His name. All I had to do was listen. It was wonderful and refreshing.
If you sit back and listen to scientists explain how everything came to be (based on the evidence we have), it is quite amazing. I encourage all to watch the new (or even the old) Cosmos series on Netflix.
I found it awe inspiring and makes me realize how truly special we have it here on Earth.. and it really gave me perspective on how all creations on this planet have so much in common. Makes our differences on a human level seem microscopic.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:01 pm to Nuts4LSU
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What did he sacrifice?
His mortal life. But besides that, He was beaten and scourged to a bloody pulp and NAILED to a wooden cross to slowly die of the cumulative effects including including suffocation.
Whether you believe Jesus was the Christ (savior) or not, even if He was just a historical figure to you - He could have easily saved himself from the torture. He had plenty opportunities to avoid the cross.
But He didn't take the easy road out.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:05 pm to WonderWartHawg
Oh look, WWH telling it like it is. Per par.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:05 pm to GeauxTigerNation
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All I see now in this religion is fear tactics. Nothing more.
Then you have the wrong religion. Read the gospels, then find a church that acts on those principles. Some religions try to scare you into believing. Some try to nice you into believing. Some brainwash you and isolate you. And some build you up, challenging you to be a better person not for fear of burning in a lake of fire, but just for the sake of being better. Find the latter, if you can.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 3:31 pm to GeauxTigerNation
Welcome to an enlightened adulthood.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 4:33 pm to The Spleen
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The Spleen
I think they missed the message, I say that because we went through something similar. Just with a miscarriage instead of birth.
God allowed them to be pregnant to begin with. They looked at it wrong, God didn't rip that baby away, God gave it to them in the first place. The fact they were able to get pregnant should have strengthened their faith. I wish they would have known that God was telling them through their miracle pregnancy, the he would stand by them through this and all things.
Here is their biggest problem from your story.
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They felt her miracle pregnancy was God's answer rewarding them for the hard work they'd put into fostering.
That isn't how God answers prayer. Yes, Thomas says Faith without works is dead, but that is saying true faith creates works, works do not create true faith.
They were rewarded for their faith, not their work. So thinking they earned it, instead of knowing it was a blessing for their faith, is what hurt them so badly when the baby didn't make it.
***hurt their faith, not them.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 4:38 pm to Nuts4LSU
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And supposedly the human Jesus arose from the dead and ascended, bodily, into heaven.
No you see, we can trust the source that says he existed but not on any of the supernatural stuff.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 4:44 pm to DawgGONIT
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frick your GOD!! Your God is perfect and demands perfection, yet for a perfect being, he sure does create imperfect creates and a stupid as woman who listens to a snake. Sounds wacko to me.
He loves you, and so do I.
I am sorry someone who claims Christ has hurt you so badly in the past. Know that their lack of love is not indicative of what following him actually looks like.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 5:52 pm to WonderWartHawg
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His mortal life.
One weekend of his entire eternal life was his great sacrifice that redeemed humanity? Hell, the National Guard does that much every month.
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He was beaten and scourged to a bloody pulp and NAILED to a wooden cross to slowly die of the cumulative effects including including suffocation.
Oh come on. Plenty of people have died horrible, painful deaths. That's not a sacrifice worthy of the savior of an entire species.
Jesus gave up a weekend and endured some pain and ridicule. God did without his son for a couple of days and didn't help when his son was in pain. People routinely sacrifice more than that all the time for any number of things.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 6:25 pm to Nuts4LSU
I'm not going to argue who existed or who gave up what etc, either you believe in God or you don't, your choice. Just know this He exists in some form, what that form is I don't claim to know, what I do know is what I've seen in my life and what became of my life after I renewed my faith and began to try and have a conscious contact with Him. I don't understand nor claim to understand who or what God is, I'm content to just know that He is.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:53 pm to Agforlife
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I don't understand nor claim to understand who or what God is, I'm content to just know that He is.
So well said.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Religion is for people afraid to go to hell, spirituality is for those of us who have already been there.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 8:31 am to Agforlife
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what I do know is what I've seen in my life and what became of my life after I renewed my faith and began to try and have a conscious contact with Him
Yep. Give yourself focus and a center, and your life usually calms down. Some people do it with yoga. Others with transcendental meditation. Some just calmly evaluate things. Religion works, too.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 8:41 am to Nuts4LSU
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Yep. Give yourself focus and a center, and your life usually calms down. Some people do it with yoga. Others with transcendental meditation. Some just calmly evaluate things. Religion works, too.
See my life had focus and center before this, it just wasn't on Godly things, when I shifted that focus and center He made Himself known to me. Oh and I'm not religious, I have very serious issues with organized religion, I consider myself spiritual and nowhere near where I would like to be it's an ongoing process.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 11:41 am to Agforlife
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I don't understand nor claim to understand who or what God is, I'm content to just know that He is.
I do sincerely wish I could believe this again.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 6:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:The only one stopping you is yourself.
I do sincerely wish I could believe this again.
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