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re: Any sliver of belief in god i was raised to have is slowly being destroyed.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:59 am to GeauxTigerNation
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:59 am to GeauxTigerNation
God is a dictator. He demands tha you follow only him.
He also wrecks shop in the Old Testament. He gets chill in the New, but he's not above dropping the hammer when needed.
He also wrecks shop in the Old Testament. He gets chill in the New, but he's not above dropping the hammer when needed.
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:21 am to GeauxTigerNation
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passed a church sign today that read "Worship or burn. The choice is yours alone"
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All I see now in this religion is fear tactics. Nothing more.
So let me get this right. You passed a sign at one church that is clearly an outlier and pretty far out there, and that means "all" you see is fear tactics from the church and "nothing more"?
Hmmm....seems like you have a problem with generalizations. And I'm curious, you say that's all you see and 'nothing more'...where else have you looked? How many churches have you visited in teh past year? It's pretty easy to make grand, sweeping generalizations about a topic if you don't even make the slightest attempt to educate yourself about it.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:33 am to GeauxTigerNation
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I passed a church sign today that read "Worship or burn. The choice is yours alone". Is this a god or a damn dictator? Are you kidding me?
That sounds abnormal for a church sign. Are you in Topeka Kansas?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 9:33 am to GeauxTigerNation
I like the sign I used to see at some church on Damen Avenue in Chicago:
JESUS SAID, I WILL COME AGAIN.
Like a boss.
JESUS SAID, I WILL COME AGAIN.
Like a boss.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:00 am to GeauxTigerNation
The words and actions of the religious have no bearing on whether or not god or gods actually exist. This logic is just as poor as when the religious argue that god must exist because they cannot comprehend the ramifications of the alternative.
There is a very long list of valid objections to the existence of a deity, but words on a church sign are not among them.
There is a very long list of valid objections to the existence of a deity, but words on a church sign are not among them.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:29 am to GeauxTigerNation
You shouldn't let second hand information written by man dictate your belief in a higher power
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:35 am to GeauxTigerNation
I was a pretty convicted agnostic before I joined the Church of AA. Surprisingly (to me), my concept of God and relationship with God have grown tremendously since I joined the program.
The atmosphere of a spiritual, not religious program where developing a relationship with 'a God of my understanding' was encouraged without definitions and absolutes about said God being rammed down my throat helped me to start to come to know God and develop a relationship where none had existed prior, of if it did, was tentative at best.
I can relate though to your sentiment about how some churches can be off putting with their 'accept and conform or burn' mantra.
For me, coming to believe that 'a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity' without all the extra details was exactly what I needed to be able to 'make a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God as I understand him.'
It has worked wonders for me. I've gotten a shite ton more out of the 12-step program than just sobriety.
FWIW, the 12 steps were originally derived from the Book of James, and AA was originally known as the "James Group" before becoming the "Oxford Group" and later AA to make the program inclusive of non-Christians.
The atmosphere of a spiritual, not religious program where developing a relationship with 'a God of my understanding' was encouraged without definitions and absolutes about said God being rammed down my throat helped me to start to come to know God and develop a relationship where none had existed prior, of if it did, was tentative at best.
I can relate though to your sentiment about how some churches can be off putting with their 'accept and conform or burn' mantra.
For me, coming to believe that 'a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity' without all the extra details was exactly what I needed to be able to 'make a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God as I understand him.'
It has worked wonders for me. I've gotten a shite ton more out of the 12-step program than just sobriety.
FWIW, the 12 steps were originally derived from the Book of James, and AA was originally known as the "James Group" before becoming the "Oxford Group" and later AA to make the program inclusive of non-Christians.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:43 am to AU4real35
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Would a dictator sacrifice his son for the sins of the world? I think we lose the essence of the word of God thrrough man's interpretation...
What sacrifice? He came back like ten minutes later.
Also, have you ever thought about how fricked up it is that someone must be sacrificed so that you can go to heaven? Really, it's kind of absurd if you think about it.
Also, if there's literally nothing that you can do of your own accord to get to heaven without Jesus, then it is not a just system.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:44 am to GeauxTigerNation
I remember in Vacation Bible School there was this one story about a little girl who was debating whether or not she should get baptized. Anyway she decided not to and later on that very day she was killed in a car accident. It was also heavily implied that she went to Hell.
This was a story for children ages 8-10. It sounded like they're trying to scare kids to love Jesus (OR ELSE!!)
Not the best tactic.
This was a story for children ages 8-10. It sounded like they're trying to scare kids to love Jesus (OR ELSE!!)
Not the best tactic.
This post was edited on 6/29/15 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:48 am to GeauxTigerNation
God is an a-hole bro. He condoned slavery, the murders of children and all he left for us to know him by is a goddamn book written by Jews.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:11 pm to GeauxTigerNation
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All I see now in this religion is fear tactics. Nothing more. I passed a church sign today that read "Worship or burn. The choice is yours alone". Is this a god or a damn dictator? Are you kidding me?
So what's going on in your life?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:23 pm to GeauxTigerNation
Only in America is God being driven out of our lives
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:39 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Mortal man garbles things beyond recognition on a regular basis.
I mean, look at lsufan, for example. They're so arse-backwards they can't even--
oops, sorry, getting carried away again. I'll save that quip for tRant
Preach TBird...
I personally think organized religion is mans feeble attempt to deal with the pure awesomeness of God. We do poorly a lot of the time in translation.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:42 pm to GeauxTigerNation
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I can believe in God but not churches . Churches, the Bible. Those are man made. I don't believe a word. I believe there is a god. But we as a species have contorted his image.
Yeah, the Bible, the Koran, the Book of Mormon. All these things are fairy tales.
Being gay isn't a sin, it's just how people are born sometimes.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:48 pm to GeauxTigerNation
Religions suck. I respect people with spirituality though. You can believe in a god or gods without relying on some religion.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:48 pm to GeauxTigerNation
God and religion are two entirely different things, don't let religion push you away from God
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:52 pm to GeauxToBed
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I was a pretty convicted agnostic before I joined the Church of AA. Surprisingly (to me), my concept of God and relationship with God have grown tremendously since I joined the program.
The atmosphere of a spiritual, not religious program where developing a relationship with 'a God of my understanding' was encouraged without definitions and absolutes about said God being rammed down my throat helped me to start to come to know God and develop a relationship where none had existed prior, of if it did, was tentative at best.
I can relate though to your sentiment about how some churches can be off putting with their 'accept and conform or burn' mantra.
For me, coming to believe that 'a power greater than myself could restore me to sanity' without all the extra details was exactly what I needed to be able to 'make a decision to turn my will and my life over to the care of God as I understand him.'
It has worked wonders for me. I've gotten a shite ton more out of the 12-step program than just sobriety.
FWIW, the 12 steps were originally derived from the Book of James, and AA was originally known as the "James Group" before becoming the "Oxford Group" and later AA to make the program inclusive of non-Christians.
Well said and it to is how I found God.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 12:59 pm to Agforlife
If a government, judge or business is able to show more compassion than your church, maybe you should find another church.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:27 pm to GeauxTigerNation
What are you talking about?
If all that you see in religion are fear tactics, it is because that is all you are looking for or what to see.
Did you not see the families of the Charleston 9 forgive the murderer? What was that? Their forgiveness should carry much more weight than a church sign. They did that because of Jesus.
Open your eyes. There are religious people everywhere doing amazing things because of their faith in God.
If all that you see in religion are fear tactics, it is because that is all you are looking for or what to see.
Did you not see the families of the Charleston 9 forgive the murderer? What was that? Their forgiveness should carry much more weight than a church sign. They did that because of Jesus.
Open your eyes. There are religious people everywhere doing amazing things because of their faith in God.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:44 pm to Agforlife
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God and religion are two entirely different things, don't let religion push you away from God
There is much truth in this statement right here
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