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A story that will anger gun control advocates.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:03 pm
An 18 year old male named Adric White enters a Family Dollar while wearing a mask and carrying a gun. He holds employees at gun point, and is ordering them around when a conceal-carry Good Samaritan noticed the crime in progress. Knowing that seconds can count when police are minutes away, the Good Samaritan entered the store and told the criminal not to move, his own firearm out and pointed at the robber. Instead of doing what he was told, the robber spun around to face the Good Samaritan, which earned him five well placed bullets. Adric survived the shooting.
Adric’s family got involved, but not in the way most would like to think. Instead of giving a wounded Adric the speech about crime and consequences, and how lucky he was to survive, the family turned against the Good Samaritan, arguing that if the customer’s life wasn’t immediately in danger, he should have left the store and do nothing. That he should have minded his own business.
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Adric’s family got involved, but not in the way most would like to think. Instead of giving a wounded Adric the speech about crime and consequences, and how lucky he was to survive, the family turned against the Good Samaritan, arguing that if the customer’s life wasn’t immediately in danger, he should have left the store and do nothing. That he should have minded his own business.
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:05 pm to Alahunter
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five well placed bullets.
quote:Not well-placed enough
Adric survived the shooting
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:06 pm to Alahunter
Five rounds and the guy lived? The good samaritan needs better ammunition.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:07 pm to Alahunter
Vigilantes are bad, Ann Romney's horse, Lerner being witch hunt.....
Preemptive: Shut up catfan
Preemptive: Shut up catfan
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:19 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:20 pm to Alahunter
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A story that will anger gun control advocates.
I have a gif that will too:
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:24 pm to cardboardboxer
Does that graph illustrate how the majority of Americans support gun ownership by giving to the NRA and how sad it is that they have to spend so much to keep their weapons?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:24 pm to Alahunter
If a responsible citizen wants to carry a firearm for these reasons he should. WE can still maintain that principle and enact gun control laws that deter things like Sandy Hook from happening. I don't get why this is hard for people to understand. I love guns and I'm 100% against open carry. I think most rational gun owners should be as well... yet... they've turned it in to this all or nothing debate. It's so idiocracy. One example of a good samaritan doesn't take away the fact that some asperger frick took an AR in to an elementary school and slaughtered 20 children. He did this because his mother bought a bunch of guns she didn't need. The mother should have had those guns registered, she should have been licensed to maintain and store that AR, and should have paid an annual renewal. Make it tax deductible if it really bothers you. If you are licensed and trained to operate an AR, by all means, use one for home defense. If you aren't willing to go through the effort, then don't own one just for fricks sake. It's that simple, IMO.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:28 pm to Alahunter
Bad ammunition, bad shooting.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:31 pm to TeLeFaWx
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gun control laws that deter things like Sandy Hook from happening
What laws that aren't on the books already, would have prevented Sandy Hook?
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I think most rational gun owners should be as well... yet... they've turned it in to this all or nothing debate
Gun control advocates have been chipping away for yrs. It's all or nothing now because too much has been taken already. Enough is enough. There are laws on the books. Enforce those laws.
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mother should have had those guns registered,
Unconstitutional.
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she should have been licensed to maintain and store that AR, and should have paid an annual renewal
Ridiculous.
It was against the law for the kid to murder his mother. And to steal the weapon. No "reasonable" gun law would have stopped that incident. Restricting rights of law abiding citizens is the wrong route to take. Would you restrict all citizens from driving at night because that's when most drunk drivers end up killing people?
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It's that simple
I dunno. You seemed to have put a little bit of thought into some really stupid arguments.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
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they've turned it in to this all or nothing debate.
It's not even worth debating anymore.
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asperger frick took an AR in to an elementary school and slaughtered 20 children.
The debate was lost when we(lawmakers) decided 20 dead 1st graders wasn't worthy of even debating the topic.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:39 pm to The Spleen
Everything was lost when folks decided to ignore the reasons things like that happen.
Just like the SC shooting. Battle flags are gone. Is that going to solve the reason the guy shot up the church? Has ANYTHING else been done to address the underlying reason besides banning flags and gun control talk?
People are too scared to offend and talk about socio economic and cultural problems and too quick to try to restrict Constitutional Rights. That's the reason gun owners are pretty much, frick yall.. we're done capitulating to anything.
Just like the SC shooting. Battle flags are gone. Is that going to solve the reason the guy shot up the church? Has ANYTHING else been done to address the underlying reason besides banning flags and gun control talk?
People are too scared to offend and talk about socio economic and cultural problems and too quick to try to restrict Constitutional Rights. That's the reason gun owners are pretty much, frick yall.. we're done capitulating to anything.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:41 pm to The Spleen
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he debate was lost when we(lawmakers) decided 20 dead 1st graders wasn't worthy of even debating the topic.
Sleeping Tiger told us that this never happened.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:45 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Was the concealed carry guy German?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:53 pm to Alahunter
Someone wasn't using hollow points.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:56 pm to Alahunter
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That's the reason gun nuts are pretty much, frick yall.. we're done capitulating to anything.
FIFY
I'm a gun owner and have no problem debating some reasonable gun control measures.
Gun nuts are selfish, myopic people. You can show them studies that a certain gun control measure could save X amount of lives, and all they'd worry about is their precious guns.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:56 pm to Alahunter
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What laws that aren't on the books already, would have prevented Sandy Hook?
What laws can be implemented to deter future Sandy Hooks? Either you accept that gun control laws can be enacted that can minimize irresponsible gun ownership or you don't.
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Gun control advocates have been chipping away for yrs. It's all or nothing now because too much has been taken already. Enough is enough. There are laws on the books. Enforce those laws.
So you don't think anything can be done to promote responsible gun ownership. Got it.
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Unconstitutional.
Naw. Interstate Commerce Clause could probably be used in some way. You are legally allowed to own a car, hunt, fish, fly a plane... requiring a license isn't a big deal.
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It was against the law for the kid to murder his mother. And to steal the weapon. No "reasonable" gun law would have stopped that incident. Restricting rights of law abiding citizens is the wrong route to take. Would you restrict all citizens from driving at night because that's when most drunk drivers end up killing people?
So you think I'm proposing banning guns in any way? Because then your comparison about banning when people could and couldn't drive might make sense. It's a free country. If you want to take your vehicle out on the road whenever you want you should be able to. If you want a gun, you should be able to have one. You still need to be a responsible car owner. You need tax title and license. And then a driver's license. And you need insurance. And within the world of driving you make laws that promote safety. Speed limits. Drunk driving laws.
I don't get why this is so offensive. Actually, I do. It's because you live in the Fox News era, where pragmatism is non-existent and hyperbolic ideology dominates every belief.
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:00 pm to Alahunter
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People are too scared to offend and talk about socio economic and cultural problems and too quick to try to restrict Constitutional Rights. That's the reason gun owners are pretty much, frick yall.. we're done capitulating to anything.
Socio economic, eh? I'm all for making guns a lot more expensive. That would take a lot more guns out of the hands of would be robbers than it would people who own them for personal safety. It's simple economics. You could even offer a buy back program. Less guns would make the prices even higher.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:02 pm to The Spleen
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The debate was lost when we(lawmakers) decided 20 dead 1st graders wasn't worthy of even debating the topic.
The idea that, "well no law would have prevented it" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Let's just eliminate drunk driving laws, then. Unless the law completely eliminates every instance of drunk driving, then it's obvious the deterrent doesn't exist.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:06 pm to The Spleen
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I'm a gun owner and have no problem debating some reasonable gun control measures
There's plenty on the books.
How about a discussion about personal responsibility? As far as Sandy Hook, the mother was quite the liberal and likely believed in "common sense" gun laws, yet failed miserably as a parent. I'm sure many of her political views mirrored yours and other gun control advocates. But holding her responsible is taboo, as is addressing why people do the things they do. Gun control advocates would rather bury their heads in the sand and convince themselves that a gun, in the hands of some people, make them go crazy and it's what makes them adapt criminal behavior. Or somehow think that further restricting lawful owners' ability to own and possess firearms, will stop that crackhead who is needing some money to get his fix.
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Gun nuts are selfish, myopic people. You can show them studies that a certain gun control measure could save X amount of lives, and all they'd worry about is their precious guns.
Psshh. I can show you where since 1993 violent gun crimes have fallen by over 50% while firearm sales and background checks have increased by 171 million since 1998. But hang on to those political organizations that get Gov't funding to come up with the skewed polls.
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