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re: A story that will anger gun control advocates.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:01 pm to deltaland
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:01 pm to deltaland
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If the laws are strict and even keep a dangerous person from buying a new gun, he will obtain one illegally either by private purchase, black market, or steal one. You can't stop it.
You can't stop anyone from committing any crime. But you can make it harder.
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The solution is to not remove the guns
I completely agree and will fight tooth and nail to keep my guns. But I'm willing to prove I'm not crazy, too. Because I'm not. So it doesn't bother me.
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:02 pm to cas4t
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Not everyone feels this way. It's not just a single line of thinking that spans across and entire group of people-liberals
The vast majority of politicians pushing for "common sense" gun control do and have publicly said so.
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But making it a little bit tougher to buy a gun is not going to give you cancer, man
Making it harder for me to buy a gun isn't going to stop the next person from stealing one and shooting up another school.
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And if it keeps a gun out of 1 autistic psychopathic bullied kid, then it's worth every second you spent in the waiting room.
A kid can't legally buy a gun. It's already against the law.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:04 pm to Alahunter
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Making it harder for me to buy a gun isn't going to stop the next person from stealing one and shooting up another school.
It's not all about you, though. And let them steal and kill. We can deal with them the same way we have been. There is nothing you can about people who are going to steal a gun. This issue has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
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A kid can't legally buy a gun. It's already against the law.
I consider an 18-20 year old a kid. But remove kid from my sentence and you'll get my point.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:05 pm to deltaland
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How would any of those laws prevented the mentally Ill son from taking the registered, stored, licensed gun from her and killing those kids?
Just like drunk driving laws don't prevent you from going to the bar, getting blasted, and getting behind the wheel, it wouldn't. Let's just say there are 40 million AR-15s in this country, and it's required that you to be licensed, trained and registered to own and continue to operate that firearm, then the number of AR 15s in this country would go down. The type of lady that would own those guns and be careless enough to let her Aspergery son get a hold of them is probably the first in line to not go through the trouble of dealing with what it takes to be a responsible owner. Will it eliminate every single instance? No. Absolutely not. But that lady didn't have a fully automatic gun for his kid to steal. Wanna repeal the 1934 National Firearms Act? Would make it a LOT easier to get a hold of an uzi. Chances are that Adam Lanza's mom might have had one.
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If you want to stop mass shootings, start looking at mental health laws and stop looking at restricting gun rights. Mass shootings were rare until we stopped institutionalizing mentally ill kids. In most cases the signs are there way before the mass shootings occur.
Mass shootings were pretty common in Australia til they enacted gun control. Gun control to levels I don't advocate, but gun control none the less.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:05 pm to Masterag
Who said I was pro life? Who said I was conservative for that matter?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:05 pm to LewDawg
HOLY shite GUYS!!
SEC football is underway. Later.
SEC football is underway. Later.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:06 pm to Alahunter
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It's not about stripping folks of their guns. It's not about closing down gun shops. It's just about screening to make sure that the folks who are buying guns are mentally fit to own one.
So you don't think that's my stance and I'm lying?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:10 pm to Alahunter
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Bans high capacity mags (over 10 rounds) - magazine capacity measures are stupid and cumbersome. completely against.
background checks to purchase ammunition - absolutely should be a national law
registry of "assault weapons" - absolutely should be a national law
report stolen guns in 24 hrs - absolutely should be a national law
expand definition of assault weapons to less cosmetic changes - hate all the semantics about what classifies and assault weapon
background checks for all private sales - absolutely should be a national law
storage of guns - what does this mean? you're required to store a gun? I mean I don't know how you would enforce that law, but every gun owner with children should have gun locks
all sells must go through FFL, even if privately sold to a family member - absolutely should be a law
Allows law enforcement officials to pre-emptively seize one's firearms without a warrant or court order when there is probable cause the individual is mentally unstable or intends to use the weapons to commit a crime - absolutely should be a national law
I have issue with pretty much every one of those things.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:29 pm to Alahunter
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Adric White
I don't even have to click the link to know his name is misplaced.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 5:37 pm to Alahunter
You're right, let's equip everyone with an AR and the country will be much better
Posted on 9/3/15 at 6:01 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
Can we all at least agree that Adric's dear mother can EAD and DIAF????
Posted on 9/3/15 at 6:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Just like drunk driving laws don't prevent you from going to the bar, getting blasted, and getting behind the wheel, it wouldn't. Let's just say there are 40 million AR-15s in this country, and it's required that you to be licensed, trained and registered to own and continue to operate that firearm, then the number of AR 15s in this country would go down. The type of lady that would own those guns and be careless enough to let her Aspergery son get a hold of them is probably the first in line to not go through the trouble of dealing with what it takes to be a responsible owner. Will it eliminate every single instance? No. Absolutely not. But that lady didn't have a fully automatic gun for his kid to steal. Wanna repeal the 1934 National Firearms Act? Would make it a LOT easier to get a hold of an uzi. Chances are that Adam Lanza's mom might have had one
Out of all the bad arguments made in this thread, this one is the worst. The worst part is that you typed this with a serious face and you think you both made sense and sound smart.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 7:10 pm to Patton
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Out of all the bad arguments made in this thread, this one is the worst. The worst part is that you typed this with a serious face and you think you both made sense and sound smart.
I'm sorry you feel that way. But no worries. Life goes on.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 7:22 pm to Alahunter
Too bad the dindu lived.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 7:32 pm to LewDawg
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Not well-placed enough
Yeah, really. If more citizens got involved, and the law supported them fully, crime would drop dramatically in this country.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 7:42 pm to Alahunter
quote:I would have been pissed that the "Good Samaritan" interfered. He easily could have caused more harm than help.
A story that will anger gun control advocates.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 8:38 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Yeah, really. If more citizens got involved, and the law supported them fully, crime would drop dramatically in this country.
Or we'd have a bunch of innocent people shot dead in the streets by citizens who thought they were doing the right thing. Cops may not be perfect but I'd rather a professional handle crimes and criminals than a nation full of uneducated untrained heroes.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 9:02 pm to JustGetItRight
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Five rounds and the guy lived? The good samaritan needs better ammunition.
I've seen dozens of bullets removed from shooting victims and they almost never mushroom like the pictures. Not all were cheap brands either.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 9:40 pm to CrimsonTideMD
That's a given
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:00 pm to The Spleen
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Gun nuts are selfish, myopic people. You can show them studies that a certain gun control measure could save X amount of lives, and all they'd worry about is their precious guns.
Or maybe you people are the problem? Maybe us gun guys realize that the criminals will not follow these rules so we either need to try and protect ourselves (as it should be) or rely on the police who are always at the scene after the fact. I'd rather depend on myself to protect me and my family rather than have to depend on someone else (probably a stranger). Yeah I'm crazy!
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