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Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:00 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:00 pm to JesusQuintana
Odom is in the booth.
I'm pretty sure I did see Henson on the sideline tonight. The camera was on Lock and some of the OL as they were standing on the edge of the field after a TV timeout. Henson was standing about 15-20 feet behind them. Looked totally detached.
I'm pretty sure I did see Henson on the sideline tonight. The camera was on Lock and some of the OL as they were standing on the edge of the field after a TV timeout. Henson was standing about 15-20 feet behind them. Looked totally detached.
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Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:01 pm to semotruman
I'm frustrated because I didn't buy into GP up until the last two years.
Now I see his vision, but I also see that he's going to Peter Principle the frick out of it.
He literally has all the pieces on the field and they are all young as shite. Your program will give them what they need.
They will all develop into good and or great players.
We have all the fricking practice field/weight room coaching we could ever need. We have it out the arse.
NFL folks that I know personally, they respect the Mizzou grind. It's a thing.
It's time for the game day coaching to put us over the top. The personnel, the coaching, it's all there. It's a game day issue right now.
Fix it Gary.
Now I see his vision, but I also see that he's going to Peter Principle the frick out of it.
He literally has all the pieces on the field and they are all young as shite. Your program will give them what they need.
They will all develop into good and or great players.
We have all the fricking practice field/weight room coaching we could ever need. We have it out the arse.
NFL folks that I know personally, they respect the Mizzou grind. It's a thing.
It's time for the game day coaching to put us over the top. The personnel, the coaching, it's all there. It's a game day issue right now.
Fix it Gary.
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:25 pm to Remote Controlled
I'm on board with all of this.
Ricker is done. It's over.
Henson needs a come to Jesus meeting. If it doesn't improve this year, he needs to "pursue other opportunities."
Ricker is done. It's over.
Henson needs a come to Jesus meeting. If it doesn't improve this year, he needs to "pursue other opportunities."
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:33 pm to Remote Controlled
I agree - it's game day coaching. Not from Pinkel, though he is ultimately responsible for fixing it. It's position coaches and coordinators and play calling. Mostly on the offense.
The thing that is hardest for me to understand is that Pinkel is an offense guy. He played it, and came up coaching it. He has a vision and knows how to coach an offense. So why the complete mess we have?
Maybe we will get lucky. Henson is ambitious, and wants a HC job. I think with the Odom hire he probably sees that it won't be at Mizzou - if there is a promotion from within, I think it will be Odom. Maybe Henson will leave, if he's not run off. Ricker needs to go. I'm not happy with Washington either - we aren't seeing enough growth from these young receivers. Same with the running backs. It's wholesale on the offensive side of the ball.
Maybe we are overreacting a little - we won't see another defense as good as Florida's. (They may not see another as good as ours either.) We will look better against normal SEC defenses. But still...
The thing that is hardest for me to understand is that Pinkel is an offense guy. He played it, and came up coaching it. He has a vision and knows how to coach an offense. So why the complete mess we have?
Maybe we will get lucky. Henson is ambitious, and wants a HC job. I think with the Odom hire he probably sees that it won't be at Mizzou - if there is a promotion from within, I think it will be Odom. Maybe Henson will leave, if he's not run off. Ricker needs to go. I'm not happy with Washington either - we aren't seeing enough growth from these young receivers. Same with the running backs. It's wholesale on the offensive side of the ball.
Maybe we are overreacting a little - we won't see another defense as good as Florida's. (They may not see another as good as ours either.) We will look better against normal SEC defenses. But still...
Posted on 10/10/15 at 11:41 pm to semotruman
I unfortunately remember when Pinkel was new to Mizzou. And the offense looked really bad at times. Then when his job was on the line, the spread was brought in.
It's not just the OC and Oline, I fear. It's Pinkel doing what he does.
It's not just the OC and Oline, I fear. It's Pinkel doing what he does.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:08 am to the808bass
I don't believe that to be the case anymore.
Up to and including 2012. Yes. His hands were all over it.
The move to the the SEC taught him two things.
1. Preseason practice is just that, practice.
2. He's a game time coach now. He was wearing several hats in the BIG 12. Now he wears one.
He's let himself realize that he's built a program and is capable of being "that coach", he didn't believe it in the big 12, and in fact felt like he'd done all he could.
The move to the SEC has rebuilt him, and proven that he is capable. He was all for the challenge the move represented.
He feels like he has met the challenge. He feels like a CEO rather than a coach. He's reached Don James level here at Mizzou. Sure he hasn't won the big one like James did at UW, but he's as good as it gets at Mizzou, no one remembers Norm, everyone knows GP. He is, the CEO.
Now, it's time to see where the company needs to be fixed.
Up to and including 2012. Yes. His hands were all over it.
The move to the the SEC taught him two things.
1. Preseason practice is just that, practice.
2. He's a game time coach now. He was wearing several hats in the BIG 12. Now he wears one.
He's let himself realize that he's built a program and is capable of being "that coach", he didn't believe it in the big 12, and in fact felt like he'd done all he could.
The move to the SEC has rebuilt him, and proven that he is capable. He was all for the challenge the move represented.
He feels like he has met the challenge. He feels like a CEO rather than a coach. He's reached Don James level here at Mizzou. Sure he hasn't won the big one like James did at UW, but he's as good as it gets at Mizzou, no one remembers Norm, everyone knows GP. He is, the CEO.
Now, it's time to see where the company needs to be fixed.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 12:11 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:09 am to Remote Controlled
I hope you're right.
Absent Henson leaving on his own, I have limited hopes.
Absent Henson leaving on his own, I have limited hopes.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:29 am to the808bass
Pink's worst OL, period. Sewer level...yes, that low and bad.
Good bye Ricker. Clean-out your locker now.
You're on secret triple probation Henson, but probably gone.
Recruit all the best JUCO o-linemen...now. Bag men, it's time now.
Good bye Ricker. Clean-out your locker now.
You're on secret triple probation Henson, but probably gone.
Recruit all the best JUCO o-linemen...now. Bag men, it's time now.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:52 am to Mizzou Mule
You're not far from the truth.
2012 was bad, but for injuries.
And there was hope.
NFL guys were on that line.
Ricker is gone, he's proven nothing at this point. He was thrust into a shitty situation. Mizzou was desperate and hired someone just as desperate. You hire anyone from that shite show in Illinois and you get what you would expect.
GP goes outside the program to hire a former "Mizzou guy". It is what it is. Nice try though.
Blah.
Blah.
frick this bullshite Oline.
2012 was bad, but for injuries.
And there was hope.
NFL guys were on that line.
Ricker is gone, he's proven nothing at this point. He was thrust into a shitty situation. Mizzou was desperate and hired someone just as desperate. You hire anyone from that shite show in Illinois and you get what you would expect.
GP goes outside the program to hire a former "Mizzou guy". It is what it is. Nice try though.
Blah.
Blah.
frick this bullshite Oline.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 1:16 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:54 am to semotruman
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game day coaching. Not from Pinkel, t
If Pinkel isn't a "gameday" coach, especially on offense, then what is he? He can't recruit, doesn't know much about position development, has no clue about defense, and his X's and O's might as well come from a soup can, just what is it he's supposed to do exactly if he isn't the offensive game plan/day manager of the team?
Henson is just yost/christensen part II, might as well accept that Pinkel has no clue how to run an offense or train an OC, if he did, he would have already done it by now. The fact that Pinkel has no clue that he has no clue how to do it, means this is as good as it gets. In a few years he will give up, retire and go away and we can start over hopefully with a coach smart enough to know his limitations.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 12:55 am to Remote Controlled
idiots wanting to blame henson, ricker and everyone BUT pinkel are the morons..
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:10 am to Jagd Tiger
Blah.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 1:15 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 1:21 am to Remote Controlled
quote:
The move to the the SEC taught him two things.
2. He's a game time coach now. He was wearing several hats in the BIG 12. Now he wears one.
no, you couldnt be more wrong, Pinkel thinks he's don james and is going to train up the next "gary pinkel" as an OC,, the man has no clue what his limitations are. It's pretty clear if there was an "OC" brain in the outfit it wasn't Pinkel, maybe at some point he will realize he needs someone a lot smarter than he is ON BOTH sides of the ball, not just defense, why don't you hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
This offense is exactly a "GP" blueprint offense, still trying to throw the ball sideways most of the game, no idea how a quick slant works and when Drew Lock says he's never seen a defense like that, he means he's never practiced against a team that trys to play tight man coverage in the middle. (thats why he's never seen it before)
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:00 am to Jagd Tiger
Yep, you should probably have been the coach all along.
You've got it all figured out.
frick me for just figuring this shite out.
You were the one all along. I'm not sure how Castiglione missed on you when he hired Pinkel, and I'm even more amazed that you weren't hired when Alden almost fired GP in 2004.
Not to mention in 2012 when your name was on the table, but GP got pissed and made some moves so you wouldn't get hired.
At least we'll have you to fall back on when this entire operation falls apart. Then you can institute the type of God damn internet coaching football that wins games.
And not just any games, but the type of bullshite, old man, I've got it all figured out because I fricked Mary Jane Rotten Crotch under the bleachers after I scored the winning touchdown for Montgomery City against Fulton in the Let's See Who Can Knock Their Girlfriends Up First and Get Married at 19 Bowl games.
That's what makes you smarter than everyone else.
Because you played high school football and got some tang because of it.
Well, guess what?
Hold on to those memories, because even though you may have fricked your wife underneath those bleachers that night, you're not gonna frick me with your bull shite tonight.
Eat a bag of dicks old man.
You've got it all figured out.
frick me for just figuring this shite out.
You were the one all along. I'm not sure how Castiglione missed on you when he hired Pinkel, and I'm even more amazed that you weren't hired when Alden almost fired GP in 2004.
Not to mention in 2012 when your name was on the table, but GP got pissed and made some moves so you wouldn't get hired.
At least we'll have you to fall back on when this entire operation falls apart. Then you can institute the type of God damn internet coaching football that wins games.
And not just any games, but the type of bullshite, old man, I've got it all figured out because I fricked Mary Jane Rotten Crotch under the bleachers after I scored the winning touchdown for Montgomery City against Fulton in the Let's See Who Can Knock Their Girlfriends Up First and Get Married at 19 Bowl games.
That's what makes you smarter than everyone else.
Because you played high school football and got some tang because of it.
Well, guess what?
Hold on to those memories, because even though you may have fricked your wife underneath those bleachers that night, you're not gonna frick me with your bull shite tonight.
Eat a bag of dicks old man.
This post was edited on 10/11/15 at 2:03 am
Posted on 10/11/15 at 2:56 am to Remote Controlled
Jagd really enjoyed this loss. He now gets to tell everyone how shitty Pinkel is.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 5:34 am to JesusQuintana
Pinkel isn't the problem, even though I find his lack of balls at the end of the game disturbing. 5 minutes left and you're down by 18, so you punt around mid field? Just don't understand his decisions sometimes.
The biggest debacle of this game was how we stopped running the ball. In the 2nd half they passed the ball like we were down 28 with 5 minutes to go in the game. Our most successful plays in the 2nd half were running plays.
Why the frick didn't we run the ball more?
The biggest debacle of this game was how we stopped running the ball. In the 2nd half they passed the ball like we were down 28 with 5 minutes to go in the game. Our most successful plays in the 2nd half were running plays.
Why the frick didn't we run the ball more?
Posted on 10/11/15 at 7:38 am to JesusQuintana
I know it won't happen, but Hensons got ta go. Pinkel is loyal to a fault. I don't think HE will fire Henson. It'll have to come down to Henson leaving on his own or a higher up forces Pinkels hand.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:58 am to jafo
Whatever the issues is, it needs to be corrected soon. I figured the game might come down to the bad matchup of UF Dline and our OL and posted this in another thread. I'm sure I wasn't the only one concerned about this. No way this OL should be so bad with so much experience. Florida's DLine is damn good, but we have struggled against every team we have played, and some have been cupcakes. This is pathetic.
I fear we may be watching the complete waste of talent of the best QB since Chase, and that's fricking disgusting.
I fear we may be watching the complete waste of talent of the best QB since Chase, and that's fricking disgusting.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:06 am to Remote Controlled
quote:
He feels like a CEO rather than a coach.
Agreed, which is fine. Probably preferable.
But if he doesn't have the stomach to make tough changes this is going to be a regular occurrence.
And god forbid if it's the players and not the coaches.
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:22 am to Mizz-SEC
It's both, but while we don't have elite talent on offense and Hansbrough being limited all year has hurt us we don't have grade school kids running around out there either.
If you can't find anything to work then that is on the coaches, and the funny thing is we ran the ball pretty well all things considered and we seemed to abandon it before we had to. First drive of the second half, down 14-3, and we throw 3 straight incompletions.
I don't pretend to have the answers but why no screens or draws to keep their pass rush off of lock. Why no quick bubbles to the WR?
The players played like shite, but I don't think the play calling did them any favors. Just another atrocious offensive performance and we've had way too many of them the past two seasons.
If you can't find anything to work then that is on the coaches, and the funny thing is we ran the ball pretty well all things considered and we seemed to abandon it before we had to. First drive of the second half, down 14-3, and we throw 3 straight incompletions.
I don't pretend to have the answers but why no screens or draws to keep their pass rush off of lock. Why no quick bubbles to the WR?
The players played like shite, but I don't think the play calling did them any favors. Just another atrocious offensive performance and we've had way too many of them the past two seasons.
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