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re: I think the team is pleased
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:27 am to TigerCruise
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:27 am to TigerCruise
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By agreeing that Odom was the best candidate for the job, people are saying they are going to be happy with 7 or 8 wins and a bowl game. Because that's where we're headed.
You're guessing, at best
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:31 am to Mizzoufan26
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The players quit on the season, quit on the coaching staff
And you quit on Mizzou, so gtfo.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:33 am to JesusQuintana
Everyone's guessing at this point.
Given the shite show at OLine I don't know how anyone could project more that 7-8 wins.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:36 am to Mizzou4ever
The only people giving this huge praise are people inside the Mizzou organization or former players who played for Mizzou. Needless to say the bias is pretty apparent. I get that he might be a great head coach one day, but the guy is 39, that is extremely young for a HC at a P5 school. I'm going to cover this later, but for reference, here are the ages of the coaches when they won their first SECCG since 1993:
Stallings 57
Spurrier 48
Fulmer 47
Dubrois 46
Saban 50
Richt 42
Tubberville 50
Meyer 42
Miles 54
Chizik 49
Malzahn 48
Stallings 57
Spurrier 48
Fulmer 47
Dubrois 46
Saban 50
Richt 42
Tubberville 50
Meyer 42
Miles 54
Chizik 49
Malzahn 48
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:36 am to JesusQuintana
If there was a better candidate out there that was willing to take the job, I'm sure Rhoades would have offered it to him. This is nothing like the Anderson hire, where as far as I can tell, you had more qualified applicants who wanted the job (Howland for one) and we went with someone else.
My guess is that the big name guys (Fedora, Herman, Richt) just had no interest in Mizzou, so if you're going to hire someone at the coordinator level, why not hire the guy who is in-house? I have no problems with the hire and see it like this: If you hire an up-and-coming coordinator from any other school and you hit it big, he could leave and go somewhere else. If you hire Odom and hit it big (and there's no indication that he has less of a chance of winning big than any other coordinator out there) you've got your coach for the next 25 years.
We know it wasn't about the money, because Mizzou pays as much or more than all but a handful of schools out there. Not sure how you're supposed to convince someone to come here who doesn't want to leave where they are at, and the only fired coach who was worth a damn out there was Richt, and he went to his alma mater.
My guess is that the big name guys (Fedora, Herman, Richt) just had no interest in Mizzou, so if you're going to hire someone at the coordinator level, why not hire the guy who is in-house? I have no problems with the hire and see it like this: If you hire an up-and-coming coordinator from any other school and you hit it big, he could leave and go somewhere else. If you hire Odom and hit it big (and there's no indication that he has less of a chance of winning big than any other coordinator out there) you've got your coach for the next 25 years.
We know it wasn't about the money, because Mizzou pays as much or more than all but a handful of schools out there. Not sure how you're supposed to convince someone to come here who doesn't want to leave where they are at, and the only fired coach who was worth a damn out there was Richt, and he went to his alma mater.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:36 am to Mizzou4ever
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Odom may be just what Mizzou needs, he very well may be that star people portray him as and we take a step up. Time will tell.
We won't know what Odom brings to the table as the head coach until he has a season under his belt. We have all seen coordinators get promoted only to find they are well past their level of competence.
On the other hand we've also seen coordinators get promoted and start off great.
Ideally Odom would have taken the Memphis job and eased into the head coaching ranks in a low pressure situation but hiring a head coach is not often an ideal situation.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:53 am to Arksulli
If we passed over Odom last year for the DC and he was the insanely hot DC brilliant mind for Memphis he may not have even come here. If we would have passed him over and he took the Memphis job this year and has Fuente success for 4 years, he would likely be solicited by programs better than ours. He chances are just as good he would pass us over just like we would have done to him this year and taken the higher respected job in 2020. Rather be 3 years too early than too late and never get a shot.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 8:55 am to BurgTiger
This is Odom's dream job. He would have taken the job if he was still at Memphis without question.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:09 am to MizzouCowboy
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This team threatened to quit, basically, over a student allegedly on a hunger
FIFY
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:41 am to MIZZOU_JP
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Capitulating to the players on Concerned Student 1950 was called a ball?
Strike Two.
Thank you Mizz-SEC. Forgot the count. I guess I have the same memory as the refs in the 5th Down game. I gonna get a rubber ban and use it in the future.
Rhoades better guard the plate with two strikes.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 9:59 am to JesusQuintana
Ohhhhhh, the team is pleased so we should all rejoice at our new homerun hire....get the frick out!
This team also quit during the season to support a hoax protest.
This team rejoiced when Mizzou leadership resigned from BLM pressure.
Yet we rejoice as fans because "the team is pleased".
Can't make this crap up.
This team also quit during the season to support a hoax protest.
This team rejoiced when Mizzou leadership resigned from BLM pressure.
Yet we rejoice as fans because "the team is pleased".
Can't make this crap up.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:18 am to mizzoukills
No, you should be mad the team is happy. You should deman we hire a coach that players will hate. You should do everything in your power to undermine Odom and make sure he fails.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:24 am to JesusQuintana
You should just continue to be willfully blind
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:30 am to mizzoukills
Because I don't agree with you? I think Odom has all the makings of a great coach.
And no matter how much people here want to try and make out him being an alum as a negative....it's not.
And no matter how much people here want to try and make out him being an alum as a negative....it's not.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:37 am to JesusQuintana
There are 2 basic reasons people are upset. First is that they were hoping for a big time hire like Herman. Or they hold resentment for the BLM fiasco and want a total house cleaning. Or a combination of both.
Personally I think it's not great but not a disaster. Time will tell. If certain coaches didn't want to coach here, not much can be done.
Personally I think it's not great but not a disaster. Time will tell. If certain coaches didn't want to coach here, not much can be done.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 10:58 am to El Segundo Guy
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There are 2 basic reasons people are upset. First is that they were hoping for a big time hire like Herman. Or they hold resentment for the BLM fiasco and want a total house cleaning. Or a combination of both.
You nailed it. And it's OK for those of us, who are disappointed with Odom becoming HC, we have that right........ It doesn't make us any less of fans for being upset.
I'm in the camp that wanted an established coach. Not another coach trainee.
Unlike Jesus who seems more like a PR man for MIZZOU, then a fan.
I think it's OK to have differing points of view. Nothing ever wrong with debating.
I've been following MU for 42 years now...... Just once, I was hoping they could bring in a Established coach. After all, we moved to the SEC because??????
Yet, once again, reality didn't come close to the hype.
If the goal was mediocrity...... We nailed it.
Let's see who we end up with as far as OC and DC.
Will Odom be another Anderson? Only time will tell.
Will I be cheering on the Tigers for the 43rd year? Of course
Posted on 12/4/15 at 12:55 pm to El Segundo Guy
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There are 2 basic reasons people are upset. First is that they were hoping for a big time hire like Herman. Or they hold resentment for the BLM fiasco and want a total house cleaning. Or a combination of both.
Personally I think it's not great but not a disaster. Time will tell. If certain coaches didn't want to coach here, not much can be done.
LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you. Count me in for option 1. But, as you said, time will tell. It could be worse.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 1:05 pm to semotruman
Kills - just when I've had enough of your Bama crap, you make a good post about Mizzou.
Dang boy.
JQ - your boy (our boy now) Odom was one of five per Rhoades. I don't think he was that high on that list. But we will never know for sure.
Dang boy.
JQ - your boy (our boy now) Odom was one of five per Rhoades. I don't think he was that high on that list. But we will never know for sure.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 1:52 pm to Mizzou Mule
In short: No one who ever attended the University of Missouri is qualified to coach the football team atthe University of Missouri.
We are too good for anyone who went here.
We are too good for anyone who went here.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:27 pm to JesusQuintana
I'm glad they're happy they got the coach they wanted. It doesn't automatically equate to Odom succeeding either. Most times I've seen "players coaches" get hired, it never really works out. Why? I don't know, maybe they get laxed in their play. It depends on how Odom approaches this.
I will say and I said it way back in the beginning before all the homerun hire histeria, that Odom would be a solid hire. Because he is instant stability for the program. But that's as far as I'll go for now supporting the hire. I'm not shut off but not jumping in with both feet either.
I will say and I said it way back in the beginning before all the homerun hire histeria, that Odom would be a solid hire. Because he is instant stability for the program. But that's as far as I'll go for now supporting the hire. I'm not shut off but not jumping in with both feet either.
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