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Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:29 pm to


K.

You said Mauk starts the next 2 years, then it's Lock for 3..

quote:
Red shirt counts toward eligibilty for the draft.


Yeah. I just said that.

I said Pinkel will start mauk the next 2 and will hope Lock for 3. It won't happen. that was my point. I mentioned the red shirt in the first post as well. look for the mention about Manziel.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:35 pm to
Something tells me you purposely botched the quote situation to cover up your mess.

Anyway..

You said Mauk starts for 2, then it's Drew's team for 3.

There was no 'hope' in there.

You're weird. Adios.



Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:26 pm to
My point is this. I'm not sure Lock would be better than Mauk now. He's certainly having a great camp, and he may be but if you startLock you better be damn sure. It would likely lead to 3 transfers from the QB slot.

Mauk has his worts and they don't seem to be improving, but he's won a lot of games for Pinkel and I don't blame him for taking that into account. So it would take a wide margin to make the switch and rightfully so.

I hope Mauk comes out and has a great scrimmage tomorrow and then we won't have to worry about it.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:28 pm to
Let's be real and admit that Mauk is really a playground or sandlock qb!
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:47 pm to
You guys were all saying the same thing. Yes, I'm sure GP would want Lock for 2 years. But no, he won't get him for 2 years unless he benches Mauk, which I don't see happening as a senior who had already started for 2 years.

I think the point that was being made is that because Lock can leave after 3 years, it's a complete waste to redshirt him. Even if it means he's only playing a series every other weekend, he is getting some field time and practice snaps. With this I agree. Doesn't mean start him, but why redshirt him?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

I hope Mauk comes out and has a great scrimmage tomorrow and then we won't have to worry about it.



Me too. But he won't. He may have a spectacular play but I'm convinced that what you see is what you get with Mauk. His absolute refusal to listen to those with knowledge of the position tells me nothing will change. Had he or his family humbled themselves enough to train/work with one of these QB gurus all offseason to improve his footwork and mechanics, I'd say there's a chance his 50% completion rate would improve.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:11 pm to
LINK

Just looking at the WR raw numbers, my prediction is that Reese passes up Culkin before the year is over. Don't know if they were bad passes or drops, but Culkin with 2 catches on 5 targets.

I'll keep saying it even though I know it won't happen and it shouldn't happen if he doesn't want it to, but man I'd love to see Zanders at WR now more than ever with the injuries.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1820 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

I'll keep saying it even though I know it won't happen and it shouldn't happen if he doesn't want it to, but man I'd love to see Zanders at WR now more than ever with the injuries.


you ain't kiddin'. At what point does Zanders realize he'd never going to start at QB? He's a fantastic athlete but with the debate about whether Lock should pass Mauk leaves Zanders at the number 4 behind Printz(who also didn't have a bad scrimmage) or no. 5 behind Berkstresser.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

But no, he won't get him for 2 years unless he benches Mauk, which I don't see happening as a senior who had already started for 2 years.



Mauk's situation will take care of itself.

Which means we'll have to endure some loss's the he causes.

Whether that's this year, or sometime early next year -- Lock or somebody else will be the starter within the coming 2 year window.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

At what point does Zanders realize he'd never going to start at QB?


Leading qb's in production at the recent scrimmage was probably a big hint he should switch to WR.

If he's not going to start here, he'll play qb somewhere else.

Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Reese passes up Culkin before the year is ove


Agree.

Culkin is a putz.

Coordination is a problem. Legs and arms and mind aren't on the same page.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5851 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:17 pm to
Is Chase Abbington practicing with the team?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:19 pm to
He had some numbers in the scrimmage. If he didn't practice this week, that's news to me. Didn't do too much in the scrimmage as I recall though. Doherty seems to have impressed more from what I recall reading.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:24 pm to
LINK

Here's your offensive numbers. Abbington had 4 for 11 yards.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 10:54 pm to
The thing about Culkin is that he will make an incredibly difficult catch and then turn around a drop a gimme.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Reese pass him up. Although, it seems like Culkin is a pretty strong blocker.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1820 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Leading qb's in production at the recent scrimmage was probably a big hint he should switch to WR.


Lock had a better completion percentage in the scrimmage. 74% to Zanders 66%. Zanders had the better QB rating thanks to a 64 yard pass to Johnson.

If you think Zanders is a better throwing QB than Lock, I would like you to go back and edit all of the posts where you said Lock should be our starter. If not, I guess you're just trolling bullshite.

My point is Zanders will not be our starting QB but he's very quick and like Reedus said, we can use him at WR.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:25 pm to
I simply don't get guys like that honestly.

Option A: Never play another game in your life but live in peace knowing you practiced at the position of your choice.

Option B: Switch positions and not just get a chance to play immediately but actually even give yourself the possibility of playing even after college.

God bless him for sticking to his guns but Option A gives him a ceiling of slaving away for a decent living. Option B gives him those results as a floor and possibly retiring at age 30 as a ceiling. Kills me to see him wasting an opportunity, even if from strictly a financial sense.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:29 pm to
In awe.

Remembering why I told myself I'd stop posting.
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
1820 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 12:15 am to
quote:

In awe.

Remembering why I told myself I'd stop posting.


Please listen to your inner voice.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:30 am to
Option C: Transfer
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